literally shitting my pants laughing

last paragraph couldnt have been said any better btw

THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH DANCE MUSIC. TRUELY AWFUL

lol it tells you a lot about beatport

kind of wondering where he gets the 1/2 point though. 1 point is for the cover art im guessing

Like what? It's an online music store where you can buy the latest Peter Van Hoesen and Skrillex release? Big Deal.

truf

Ha ha, I just read about this guy on DJ forums, he's getting a lot of hate. The EMO angle/history just does not seem to sit well..

I never heard of Skrillex, guessing its a US thing?

On the plus side, maybe if this guy encourages just a few people to look beyind the realms of his shite, into other dub step/DnB sounds it can't be all bad?

Just imagine if 'real' dance music, caught on in the US? If enough people took ecstasy in that country we really might jst get worldpeace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

it hurtssss

It's the most horrible thing I've ever heard

i like beatport

why? it's slow and user-unfriendly.
junodownload and whatpeopleplay are way better.

Yeah, I'm open-minded to aggressive/critically detested sounds and when it comes to the Dub Police stuff, I find that purists make mountains out of molehills but...

...this release is just awful. There's no defending it. I disagree about it being ' fun and well-produced rave fare' as well: there's plenty of artists working in this vein that simply make better (and ravier!) dubstep tunes that can appeal to American teenagers without sinking this low.

i guess i like the layout but i also use juno too. never heard of whatpeopleplay. ill check it out. thx

This is what's wrong with america today.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jil8tvKHEA4 here's a teaser clip of the EP. Annoying as hell.

I so agree with you. This deserves only 0/5. worthless piece of shit.

@Konigsforst that video is seriously disgusting. and read the comments - 'my earpussy is squirting' wtf is wrong with the people?????

what the fuck is the point of reviewing something that you want to give a bad review to, you don't cover this type of music anyway so whats the point, grow up RA!

Are you implying people should only review things with the intention of being positive? I think the point is to be objective. Sometimes that means there'll be a good review, somethings that means there'll be a negative review. Asking for anything else completely undermines the point of a review.

Cyrus88: you're confusing "critic" with "publicity".

im not implying that at all. this release is shit, theres no denying that but it seems silly for RA to be reviewing it as they're not exactly covering regular releases from maustrap recordings. RA is site for underground electronic music, it just seems like reviews like this are done to laugh at this sort of dance music. if it was objective, we'd see reviews for swedish house mafia, guetta, tiesto, etc regularly but we dont, and id rather not see them anyway.

Edited: after reading cyrus88 second post, I decided to delete my original excoriating diatribe against him...however IMHO BEATPORT should be more transparent and show actual mp3 download sales and by country...

Yeah, I find it hard to believe this EP took over the charts in 24 hours solely on the "quality" of the content. I like to think I stay pretty in tune with the "scene" as a whole, even the shittier mainstream side of things, but this guy came out of nowhere. No press hype, no momentum from other projects, nothing. Just front page marketing, and boom instant takeover.

Beatport is becoming less and less reputable IMO, especially after hearing about all these unlicensed tracks being put up for sale and then not taking them down at the license holder's request, and the exceedingly excessive margin the company takes on each sale.

This release is gaining a lot of momentum and popularity. It's worth reviewing if for no other reason than Dubstep is still, largely, a growing, underground movement, and since this is the first (as far as I know) "Dubstep" EP released on a major, commercial EDM label it's going to introduce a lot of people to Dubstep. Unfortunately, this is definitely going to be the new face of Dubstep for a wave of new listeners. Reviewing it, and framing it within the larger world of Dubstep, is definitely a valid enterprise.

THis is Great, It's like a right Jab From Mike Tyson. Skrillex just got owned by Andrew Ryce's review. Nice work!!!

It's silly to be reviewing this? It is holding the charts on beatport. That is a very very very valid conversation in this community considering beatport is one of the biggest digital sellers of music in the electronic community.

It's silly how everyone hates on popular music, yeah the release isn't good, big deal. But it is still music, which is just as subjective as art. 100%. It is what it is.

I find it surprising that no one saw this coming? That is how American music culture works (especially with dance music). Remember drum and bass? What did America do with it? Gein, Evol Intent, Dieselboy, grindcore hard core core core core... Big effing surprise with the 'dubstep' (which isn't even really dubstep its just whomp music...)

Trash, I agree. But for the area, they are doing something right. If I were this artist I would be laughing all the way to the bank because in the end it's silly music and I am sure that 'Skrillex' has just sold more copies of records ANYONE hating on this thread ever will in their life, he will receive more pay for gigs and also end up landing more gigs than the haters here.

I would be laughing anyway.....

well said.

I remember when boomkat.com TRASHED jimmy edgar in a review and said he should just keep him music 'on the chopping block'.

Look at him now. He releases a tune on items and things, pow. Everyone loves him now.

Whatever, he was badass years ago when he was on M3rck records, and he is still badass....

I remember when my jeans were a 29 waist.. now they're something around a 31/32 waist (when I'm feeling lucky)

I wish the world would stay the same.

What makes a homemade label with no connection to the 'big 5' a MAJOR COMMERCIAL label.

No soup for you, you are wrong. Mau5trap is a small as independent label with no connections to COMMERCIAL or MAJOR what so ever. Just because it is POPULAR doesn't make it MAJOR.

People, there is noting "underground" about dubstep anymore. On the same token, there is little good about the rising American dubstep wave, especially when compared to it's UK predecessors. When the "wobble" bass hit US soil, I began to despise the sound and all the electro crap that went with it. Remember, if you hear a track at a department store, shop in the mall or the like, it's not underground. In fact, it's probably not all that great of music to begin with.

One of the most useful and intelligent reviews I saw recently. The last sentence is just great.

Also on that point from Acronym - Ministry of Sound have been putting out commercial dubstep for over a year now, while everyone from Benga to Caspa to Roska to Jakwob and even current RA darling L-Vis 1990 have been churning out distinctly half-hearted 'dubstep' remixes for every credible pop act signed to ALL 4 Majors, and this has been going on for at least 2 years.

Not to mention magnetic man etc...

I meant in relative terms. I consider stuff like Deadmau5, Guetta, Benassi, etc. to be commercial within the realm of EDM. It's the kind of music that any casual listener or you're average club go-er who isn't familiar with EDM will likely get drawn to at first. The fact that Deadmau5 is the kind of artist who has a fanatical following means his label benefits from that.

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Though Dusk, you're right, I totally blank on the Ministry of Sound stuff. Based on what I'm seeing though this release is getting a lot wider recognition among listeners who didn't previously consider themselves fans of dubstep. I keep hearing things like "Normally I hate dubstep but this guy is crazy talented, this album is awesome!!!11!!one!1" I simply meant to say that since this appears to be an album that's going to be introducing a lot of new people to what they consider to be "Dubstep" then its worth reviewing.

Um, don't think you can really compare Skrillex to Edgar lol.

The problem with this rat-faced greasy haired fuck is that it's so obvious how juvenile and shitty his noise is. It's like he just tried to fit in every single popular fad, disco samples, youtube samples, electroclash, brostep midrange wobbles, into a tiny EP, and everyone ate it up like a big well shaped banana-turd disguised in chocolate fondue and sprinkles.

Got fucked. It's pretty safe to say that this release is objectively terrible. Americans have no taste though what's new

This is incredibly painful to my ears (I'm sorry the reviewer had to listen to the while EP. No wonder the review was so angry!). And it's sooooooooo busy. Which is a nearly universal sign of a shite, newbie producer.

One thing is confusing me though? On what planet is this dubstep? Everybody keeps saying that, but I'm not hearing it. If anything the track with the MC on it sounds somewhat what like horrible grime, but dubstep.....?

Just heard the teaser on that link above and it's quite clear that this is shitty music, plain and simple. Also, I know the comments on youtube are usually retarded, but this has to be right up there with the 5 most stupid comments ever typed on youtube:

"Skrillex is the best thing to happen to electronic music since the invention of electricity." The saddest part is that that has 49 thumbs up [thumps ups?].

There you have it, ladies and gentleman - Skrillex is better than Aphex Twin.

So have Britney Spears and Justin Bieber. What exactly is your point? Is this your idea of defending him or are you just stating facts that most of us are aware of?

Have to say, when i first saw that RA had reviewed this i cringed as i opened the review. Quite obviously it was going to slated on here, yet i was surprised to find a very well balanced review. Yes its negative, but Andrew has broken it down well. And whilst he was looking at it just from a dubstep angle, i think he's written a constructive review. Well done Andrew

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Erm, really? A measure of how *good* something is isn't just down to personal taste. Is a corner cafe as good as a Michelin star restaurant? Are Primark jeans better than Levis? Is a Skoda as good as a Ferrari?

Usually the measures are things like the amount of skill and craftsmanship, the quality of the materials or ideas that go into something.

In this case I get the feeling that those are totally lacking.

Of course you can compare it all, it's just music. Compression of air molecules...

And next time you have a rant, start it off with something relevant to the music, not about the guys 'greasy hair'...

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I'm sure we all agree with that. One of the points raised in the review though is that for the past several years people have spent a lot of time and energy building the dubstep scene. IMO it's been responsible for some of the best and most inventive music in recent electronic music history.

Now along comes Skrillex, Deadmau5 and some of the other U.S. producers like Bass Nectar or whatever, jumping on the dubstep bandwagon. They create this music that is really nothing like dubstep (just poppy rave with extra bass tacked on), but use the term "dubstep" so they can ride the critical buzz around real dubstep artists and be able to sell this shit to the masses. You have to admit it's a little bit disgusting.

I brought up the subject of dubstep to some friends who were not so into the scene recently, and they all excitedly mentioned artists like this. Blegh

wrong site,,,

Haha I know the feeling, no worries. I get what you mean and you're right it is down to personal opinion (and the reviewer gave his).

When people say something is "shit" musically it's nearly always because they don't like it (for whatever reason) or they think they know better. It's kind of futile trying to think anywhere beyond that IMO, and it certainly doesn't take away from the fact *some* people do enjoy it.

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I don't know if that was in regards to this review being on RA or this discussion.

personally, i would never call this dubstep....