pretty bad review in my opignion.
why always comparing older stuff with new stuff? i think its great if someone is groing and doing different things.
and this record sounds very very pure to me.i just love it.underrated.

fair review, tracks are no where near as amazing as the world seems to think they are if you ask me. had they not come under the joy o banner no one would give a shit about them

er, what? 'Wade In' jumps out like parting clouds with a glorious sustained cloud and a sample of some clinking metal that repeats periodically throughout the whole track.'

That literally makes no sense. Poor effort.

Were you reading Boomkat reviews under the influence of Gin when you wrote that?

Very nice track. Poor review, which often seems to be the case with RA in my opinion.

jels is good enough for villalobos to play the other morning

Unsuitable review imho... Definitely worth more than a 3.

well thats your opignion.but i think even if they would have come out as dj motherfucker - they would have got the same attention.and probably a better review(;-)

still waiting for 'Ellipsis' and have been for a while now

this.

and i would like to quote Shed



This same here goes to dubstep/garage/uk funky guys doing house.
Where the fuck is the groove? Both tracks are straight as Chuck Norris.

Joy always sparks debate...

What's the problem with warmup tracks? Sometimes you hear the best tracks at the beginning of a night....

jels is a warmup track? haha hilarious...



i think Jels has an awesome groove, wade in not so much but i really like jels. to each his own..

Chuck Norris decides where the groove goes.

Warm up or peak time, for me this is just a weak and forgettable record and a 3 seems about right. It's not bad, but it is terribly mediocre and therefore disappointing coming from someone like Joy O[rbison].

they lack his usual use of some sort of lovesick vocal sample. they will be good remixed!

also - im glad he went and tried something else. no need for hyph mngo #2, experiments are much more satisfying. keep the listeners guessing. and these are tracks i can actually play cause i dont play dubstep out

All of my reviews are written under the influence of gin, just for the record.

mmm, have yet to hear these, ladywell and bb were kinda boring house tracks, more of the same??

Am I listening to the same track?
'Jels' sounds like a stormer of a track.

Warm-up for a gabber party maybe...

when i want some chicago house i get it from chicago... not a clean watered down version from the UK... amazing what u guys flip out too!! do a little homework!!!

Yeah, I agree with you in principle, but in the overall scheme of things I'd hardly call this an "experiment". Pretty much every bass producer is going the house route, and a lot of them have done it much, much better. I mean Untold did this shit in 2009 and pulled it off a 100 times better, while also retaining his own distinct sound. Ramadanman's being doing it for a while now. Even forgoing the perhaps unfair comparisons to other dubstep artists, this just sounds like the work of any random average house producer. It just sounds...stiff.

Also he has made quite a few tracks after Hyph Mango and all of them were really good without "trying to be a Hyph Mango", so it's not like there are only two extreme options at play here. Yup, I like that he's switched up his sound too, but I just wish the execution would've been better.

Of course this all comes down to personal taste and to be fair, I heard JO's Knock Knock on Pinch's podcast here and I remember really digging that. And if he's really behind "Sicko Cell", then all the better.

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Dubstep/Postdubstep/etc producers trying to do house, all of them in a whole, and becoming alienated in the process. Another deja vu I have with dubstep, remembering what happened with broken beat.

The tracks are good, but all those talented producer kids are falling in the same trap: they love their influences, they love the oldschool as few people do though they were barely conscious when those sounds happened, and they try to recreate all with their instruments... faliing into doing the same old thing when they get experience, losing freshness. The first Joy Orbison tracks were raw, which made them unique. Now he's adding more expertise to the tracks, and suddenly, the uniqueness is gone. Tragic, and we have seen this so many times.

I am with this guy. Joy Orbison is on fire at the moment and this reviewer doesn't seem to want to give him the credit he deserves. Both tracks have their place in a dj set, yes, but they're both excellent.

Also I can confirm 100% that he is the producer of Sicko Cell...doing huge stuff right now! to the guy claiming "watered down" house... this is not chicago house... this is the stuff that has come out of house, dubstep, techno, ukg, 2-step and more...

he needs to put out GR Etiquette and Ellipsis. my money is on him being behind Sicko Cell too.

i heard it directly from headhunter friday night since he played it - it is definitely him. him and boddika are absolutely smashing it imo, most forward thinking producers of 2011

What the hell are you talking about? No offense. "SIcko Cell" and the like are far more "raw" than the likes of Hyph Mngo...just because this track is low key doesn't make it less fresh. It's different and that makes it MORESO, the way I see it. And he hasn't pinnned himself down to this style either, if you listen to some of his other tracks emerging on Youtube and forthcoming on Swamp81/etc.

I really don't see that many dubstep producers trying to make house... Pinch maybe, but he's taken his own spin on it in 'Croydon House', it's quite unique. What I do see is a bunch of genres that came from dubstep both splitting off and coming together. As long as I can avoid the nasty minefield of brostep/kandy filth out there I have high hopes for the future of lots of these producers, Joy O especially..

Scuba, Sigha, Ramadanman, Martyn, Appleblim, Peverelist, TRG, Instra:mental...

None of those artists is making music that you can strictly call "house" (as in there's more to their music, influence of other genres). They all have a pretty unique garage/2-step/dubstep influence to them. Like it or leave it...

That's fair, but influences don't make a genre.
So It's still house/techno music. Garage/2-step/dubstep influenced house/techno music.

true, but i lost track of your original argument... that noone would care if it wasn't Joy Orbison? trust me man, I heard Wade In for the first time in a Loefah mix from last fall @ Fabric and loved it when I had no idea who produced it or what it was called. Same with most of the tracks from that set which is like half Boddika...heh

Ok, you are right. [IE: I read your comment, I agree on the half of it, but I ran out of arguments]

I dunno what to call it, but I like it!

fucking banging EP

jels is pretty bangin!

Enjoying both; Nice.

really liking jels, but it just feels like wade in is missing something...

it's a decent release, nothing ground-breaking or mind-blowing but i like the direction he's going in with his productions

Yea more of the same

for me better than ladywell and bb which were boring. this ep is more groovy, more percussive. but yes, this is not a revolution, just efficient and it's enough for me

I thought this wasn't a bad ep... not quite up to the levels of Hyph Mngo and Brkn Clln though

The one with the cowbells (seriously... the two mis-labelled everywhere!)
on repeat on repeat on repeat on repeat on repeat
track of the month for me

Possibly something stronger

Shocked this is only a 3. Looking at how it's being played all over the place and loads of folks dig it, I'd disagree with that assesment.