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| RA News An event this Monday at the
Kulturbrauerei will protest GEMA's new tariff system, which threatens the existence of many Berlin clubs.
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| #1 / Fri, 22 Jun 12 22:51 wer soll denn das alles bezahlen?
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| #2 / Sat, 23 Jun 12 01:27 Es ist schon absurd, alles was man bezahlen muss, wenn es um Musik geht. Unglaublich viele Diskos werden zumachen, wenn diese Schieße durchgeführt wird.
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| #3 / Sat, 23 Jun 12 14:54 am ende zahlt der gast.
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| #4 / Sun, 24 Jun 12 22:17 German techno legend and Love Parade founder Dr. Motte shares some insights
http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/37/37144/1.html
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| #5 / Tue, 26 Jun 12 16:30 If you're making music you're sharing it with the world.. If its getting played by somebody else at Berghain you should be honored. Even if he downloaded your productions illegally. Goddam 1st world countries and their righteousness, download mp3 (for free) and buy vinyl to show support!
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| #6 / Tue, 26 Jun 12 21:49 Ahhhh jaaaa GEMA... ein typischer Vertreter des deutschen Legalismus.....so gut gemeint, aber so blind. Im Versuch einen song copyright zu schützen, GEMA wird unsere Begeisterung über clubbing töten.... www.clubbingunlimited.com
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| The Feed The UK paper lays out the details of the German collection agency's controversial new tariff structure, which could spell the end for many Berlin clubs. You can sign a petition to stop the new tariffs here. |
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| #7 / Wed, 04 Jul 12 14:07 Current Copyright law is bullshit, and organizations like GEMA, BMI, & ASCAP are nothing more than briefcase mafia which use lawyers instead of gangsters in their racketeering enterprises.
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| "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."
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| #8 / Wed, 04 Jul 12 14:34 was können wir machen um die zu stoppen???
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| #9 / Wed, 04 Jul 12 14:39
I'm wondering if the avarage artist getting played in the Berghain for example, is a member of GEMA. And how divides GEMA the money it has collected among its members?
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| #10 / Thu, 05 Jul 12 15:00 Posted by halfemptyfull
I'm wondering if the avarage artist getting played in the Berghain for example, is a member of GEMA. And how divides GEMA the money it has collected among its members?
Highly doubtful on this one. I'd wager it's a lot like ASCAP/BMI/Soundscan in the US...mainstream/major label songwriters are likely the biggest beneficiaries. This is the main problem I see with these organizations and their compulsory licensing schemes.
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| #11 / Thu, 05 Jul 12 16:29
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| #12 / Thu, 05 Jul 12 23:10 Just signed the petition!!Wish really this will not happen ,because its still and the only city when you feel free as person and of course as a clubber...
NO!!!!!!
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| #13 / Mon, 09 Jul 12 20:29
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| The Feed "...it's like they’re playing poker." The Osgut boss airs his views on the issue that's currently gripping German clubland. |
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| #14 / Tue, 17 Jul 12 20:13 I am not sure about GEMA's new tariffs specifically as I've read they're increasing by a ridiculous amount. But I work in music royalty admin in Canada and can attest to the diversity of the artists that are collecting royalties. What people forget is that companies such as ASCAP/BMI/SESAC/CMRRA/Resound etc usually only take 8%-10% of the royalties before they are paid out.
At my last position, I even was occasionally allowed to choose the composers to pay out to. Kerri Chandler, Ben Klock, Kenny Dope, Jeff Mills, Robert Hood, Surgeon, etc have me to thank for the reproduction royalties they collected in the entirety of Canada last year for sales on Beatport, iTunes and most other digital stores.
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| #15 / Tue, 17 Jul 12 21:09 Ignorant question, but what royalties do artists earn on Beatport or iTunes? Wouldn't that be their share of sales/profits?
Also, how are royalties enforced in a club situation? Are djs required to submit a tracklist to GEMA or do they just estimate?
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| #16 / Tue, 17 Jul 12 21:16 I would actually pay someone to play my music at Berghain. And then pay to get in to listen to it.
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| #17 / Wed, 18 Jul 12 12:53 Why dont all the independent electronic lables like Ostgut Ton etc just pull out of GEMA and start a new consortium and those in Berghain not play the music from labels still connected to GEMA , am I missing something here??
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| #18 / Wed, 18 Jul 12 13:07 Posted by Comrad
Why dont all the independent electronic lables like Ostgut Ton etc just pull out of GEMA and start a new consortium and those in Berghain not play the music from labels still connected to GEMA , am I missing something here??
If you play one Gema track you have to pay the full amount and after all, there is some good music registered at Gema. You have to check every track and there is no proper software that simplifies this process. Lots of effort! Also this imposes restrictions to foreign DJs who may be used to playing some Gema tracks. There is another obstacle, the Gema conjencture: you have to proove every night (by means of submitting a track list) that not a single Gema track has been played, that means a lot of administrative effort. It would be possible though to have good music without playing Gema music, about 80% of club music is not regsitered with Gema and it would be easy to convince further producers to drop out of Gema to be played at all.
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