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| RA News The famed Berlin venue will not shut its doors, despite a rate hike instituted by German collections agency GEMA.
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| #1 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:24 thank fuck!!
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| #2 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:24 (Edited: 15 Aug 12 11:54) whoops
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| #3 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:25 it doesn't say in the article that GEMA and Berghain have found an agreement for 2013 and beyond...
It says Berghain and GEMA have found an agreement (like many if not all other clubs in Germany) until now...
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| #4 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:27 JEEZ..
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| #5 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:29 (Wipes hand across forehead)
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| #6 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:33 The article doesn't state anything about an agreement for 2013.
It simply says that the owners have confirmed that Berghain will stay open even if the GEMA raise their rates, but that the Kubus project has been put on hold as funding the project will no longer be affordable cos of the GEMA situation.
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| #7 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:38 Anyone have a link to the original article?
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| #8 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:41 I wonder will they relax their fussy door policy now?
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| #9 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:41 Posted by nd_baumecker it doesn't say in the article that GEMA and Berghain have found an agreement for 2013 and beyond...
It says Berghain and GEMA have found an agreement (like many if not all other clubs in Germany) until now...
Thanks nd, We have corrected the article to reflect this and put in an update to point out what it had said previously.
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| #10 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:49 Great news, would be a travesty if the place shut down Posted by JamesieB I wonder will they relax their fussy door policy now?
The 'fussy' door policy you speak of is very much for the good of the club. The experience inside would be a lot worse without it
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| #11 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:57 thank god!
here´s the original article btw http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/kultur/berghain-dies-waere-ihr-klub-gewesen,10809150,16885032.html
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| #12 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 11:58 thank goodness
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Next @ Horizon | #13 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 12:04 Heaven on earth, glad they stay open.
Last weekend was amazing again!
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| #14 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 12:18 piuff!
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| #15 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 12:22 This is good news...
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| #16 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 12:28 Awesome. Will definitely be celebrating there next time im in town. Oh wait they NEVER let me in.
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| #17 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 12:29 There doesn't seem to be a like button...
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| #18 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 12:55 Good piece of news to start my day off.
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| #19 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 13:08 thank you Jesus
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| #20 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 13:16 i dont understand why poeple want to ruin something thats good, hope berghain never closes
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| #21 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 13:18 Ich bin so froh, ich werde die Haare an den Seiten rasiert, um dies zu feiern
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Next @ Cocoon | #22 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 13:20 cant wait to be in the dark room again in 2013 with all my 'good friends' 
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| #23 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 13:57 Posted by kenku Ich bin so froh, ich werde die Haare an den Seiten rasiert, um dies zu feiern
+1
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| #24 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 13:58 what about the other clubs..? Watergate, Tresor...?
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| #25 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 14:17 not the plan of berghain to close led to the protests.. there was awareness of the issue before... .
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| #26 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 14:21 <3 <3 <3 YESSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| #27 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 14:22 Posted by mcable01 Awesome. Will definitely be celebrating there next time im in town. Oh wait they NEVER let me in.
Obviously you arent the type they want in there then lol
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| #28 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 14:25 THANK THE STARS!!!!
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| #29 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 14:49 So this is what is called NON News right..? the threat from GEMMA still remains, there has been no agreement and all of Berlin's night life is still under threat and you guys put this up as news..? C'mon RA shape up..
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| #30 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 14:52 Posted by yannbdhcant wait to be in the dark room again in 2013 with all my 'good friends'  Which one?
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| #31 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 15:16 Posted by mcable01 Awesome. Will definitely be celebrating there next time im in town. Oh wait they NEVER let me in.
Face for radio? ... NEXT. Haa! I kid.
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| #32 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 15:56 Eya GEMA mate, fuck off.
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| #33 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 16:06 Awesome, now the end of Sylvester won't be a sad one!
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Next @ Klubnacht | #34 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 17:15 I would have put my dancing shoes to rest.
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| #35 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 17:29 (Edited: 15 Aug 12 17:36) This is news? The Berghain marketing machine is in full effect I see
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| #36 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 17:56 agreed. they need to keep the door policy. that's what makes the place so special.
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| #37 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 18:00 (Edited: 17 Aug 12 14:55)
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| #38 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 18:48 It's not a Berghain forum thread without a debate over their door policy
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| #39 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 20:25 Clubs the size and popularity of Berghain, Watergate , Tresor etc won't close as a result of GEMA. GEMA has realised that Techno makes heaps of cash in Berlin and they want a cut. They(GEMA) have started with an outrageous bid which over time will come down to tolerable levels. Sounds like a business/tax deal getting blown out of proportion.
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| #40 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 23:51 Gooood! I hope to return the 2th of October !
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| #41 / Wed, 15 Aug 12 23:55 Posted by LarviPosted by yannbdhcant wait to be in the dark room again in 2013 with all my 'good friends'  Which one? what about the night of the cock fight?
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| #42 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 00:02 If anyone wants to ever buy me a ticket here let me know!
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| #43 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 00:16 Berhain staying open was obliviously obvious. Even with the unfavorable new tariffs, Berghain would still make more than enough profit to continue operating and to do it at such a high level. So will the other top clubs in Berlin (and rest of Germany) like Watergate and Cocoon in Frankfurt. They will only be making a lower margin. It's the smaller venues (maybe like a Golden Gate or a Suicide Circus?) that would run into a bit of trouble.
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| #44 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 00:25 Posted by mcable01 Awesome. Will definitely be celebrating there next time im in town. Oh wait they NEVER let me in.
Same here...you aren't alone lol
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| #45 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 00:51 Good news..
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| #46 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 10:17 Fantastic! Can't wait for my first Berghain visit.
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| #47 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 12:05 Good new yes, But i think it was pretty much taken for granted that it wasn't gonna shut its door.. SMALL CLUBS will doffer about this bloody GEMA... not big clubs like Berghain.. simple!
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| #48 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 15:07 Was told by Seanie man leonard who is studying polls in berlin that the way he hears it is the gov they just want more money simple as and they will get it one way or another ! and clubbers will just have to pay
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| #49 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 16:16 the problem is, the money is being payed for somebody who doesnt give a shit about techno music, it wouldnt be hard to pay 1-2 euros more for ticket to get the 'fee' for the club by the clubbers, but that wouldnt be fair, because they're just taking money for nothing.. why other bussinesses can work monday to friday and dont pay those huge taxes? i really dont get it, why would someone need to pay bigger taxes for staying up longer.. i would just not give a shit and not pay, they're already lucky to get atleast something
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| #50 / Thu, 16 Aug 12 16:59 It's because GEMA considers that the tracks played inside the clubs are played without the permission of the DJ / producers who composed it. The longer you're open, the more tracks are played so you have to pay more. Mathematically, it is a 'logic" point of view... for them I meen... Of course I dont defend them. They have to understand the electronic music and the concept of a dj for sure... when ben is playing a track inside berghain from an not-so-famous producer, I am not sure that the producer will feel stolen of offensed  It's more a kind of mediatisation. And like already said, this same hypotetical producer will not get money from GEMA at the end !! so total nonsense indeed.
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