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| #0 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 10:20 RA Feature The fastest growing sound in North America has superstars, a slew of hungry, scene-jumping adopters and a whole host of questionable social issues to go with it.
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| #1 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 10:21 a friend once said to me....friends dont let friends listen to trap.........its a trap!!!! even akbar knows its no good
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| #2 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 12:17 I fail to see the "questionable social issue" in this?
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| #3 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 12:48 More than anything, this reminds me of the UK's hardcore moment when black and white teens took a bunch of genres and made a mongrel out of them. That too was "questionable" and well meaning critics said a lot of it was bunk, but it led to inspiring possibilities when committed artists took the template and pushed it to extremes.
I eagerly await the Trap Goldie and the Trap Source Direct.
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| #4 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 12:54 '' superstars, a slew of hungry, scene-jumping adopters ''
not unlike alot of the garbage coming from the UK
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| #5 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 13:14 Posted by ionnic1
I eagerly await the Trap Goldie and the Trap Source Direct.
LOL  But your comparison makes sense.
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| #6 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 14:04 "the music utilizes much of the same devices as the worst of lowest common denominator club music."
That is all that needs to be said about trap music. I cannot understand how it has gotten so big. Yes, the bass hits hard but so does the flu.
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| #7 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 14:37 Trap is the new Brostep. Got it. Move on now.
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| #8 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 15:16 the fact this is a headline article on RA is the "questionable social issue."
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| #9 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 15:27 "bombastic" does not mean "explosive" - thesaurus feature on word for the lose 
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| #10 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 15:58 Trap def. has its qualities if you don't have a problem with stupid, full on and energetic dance music. I must confess that I sometimes like the idea behind it all more than the music itself, but I can't deny there are som really cool trap(y) stuff out there.
Someone compared the trap movement with UK hardcore back in the 90s. I would even go as far as comparing it to the first wave of house music in the 80s. The raw energy is there, the young age and background of the producers, the cheap equipment (or probably illegaly downloaded), the uneven quality of the output and the movement around the music. There are of course differences but I still see it as very much the same thing.
If you like the music or not, that's of course a whole other thing.
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| #11 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 16:07 I'm a long-term junglist and trap 4 me is 'hiphop finally got dancemusic'. I enjoy every bit of it. It's got the same fire and badness as raggajungles amen tear-out's. Music does no have to be serious. Fck the haters- move on. Let's mash in some more jungle in this soup + ragga and distored sound of hardstyle and that will be be gold.
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| #12 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 16:15 was this really worth the effort of typing out 1000 words? only thing this is going to inspire is people saying 'traps shit' in the forums or whatever. zero intelligent debate to be had about music like this
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| #13 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 16:16 oh yeah, apart from the guy above me.
"Let's mash in some more jungle in this soup + ragga and distored sound of hardstyle and that will be be gold."
haha
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| #14 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 16:53 first time I heard of trap here. after listening to a few songs I agree it's too much and gimicky. Moshpit kind of style dancefloors, i can't stand it.
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| #15 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 16:53 kind of obvious that a lot of people will be hating on this too.
i wasn't around back then, but it would not surpise me if a lot of people who were in to "real organic dance music" back in the 80s weren't very happy about the simplistic "soulless" drum machine music coming out of Chicago at the time.
but anyways, who cares... the easiest option is always just to hate on things.
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| #16 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 17:16 did you just compare trap to chicago house?
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| #17 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 17:37 i think he did!
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| #18 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 17:53 yes i did!
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| #19 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 17:56 Enjoyable article. I think HudMo's 'Cbat' needs to feature on this timeline somewhere though.
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| #20 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 18:12 The state of modern pop hip hop is grim. A lot of the big club tracks are autotuned guys singing over Afrojack beats. For a genre that was once mind meltingly avant garde it sure has become stale and I think it's opened up the floodgates for anyone with a somewhat clever spin on the sound (even dorky white guys). I'm looking forward to some new innovations.
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| #21 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 18:17 Sheeeit! another subgenre raises its head..... like a blackhead going full on pustular.
I have Now Thats What I Call Trap, on MOS in heavy rotation......
Andrew ,The Guardian will be contacting you soon as the UKs go to expert on North Americas hottest new scene.Please contact Idris Elba for the documentary vox pop.
I call bs on a bs article, about bs tracks, played at bs festivals by bs jocks but then again, I am 43years old.
To the editors, please stop infantilising this site! the interweb is brimming with digital faeces, why do you feel the need to contribute?
Smilies and Trap music Fuckever!
Leave this stuff to Sherburne and Reynolds, if and when it does develop.......digital drug noise is so nineties
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| #22 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 18:55 Guilty pleasure of mine. Why does music have to be so serious all the time? The lyrics always crack me up. Plus I'm a sucker for bass...
Plus, this has been around way before dubstep...
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| #23 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 21:07 Posted by roachboy
I have Now Thats What I Call Trap, on MOS in heavy rotation......
Trap is on the MoS radar for sure...
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| #24 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 21:33 stupid
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| #25 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 21:36 Posted by Philo1
That is all that needs to be said about trap music. I cannot understand how it has gotten so big. Yes, the bass hits hard but so does the flu.
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| #26 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 22:00 yeah, it's pretty bad here in the states. the trap i've heard sounds nothing like southern hip-hop in my opinion, which is what a lot of people are comparing it to. it's not a mature sound, that's for sure.
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| #27 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 22:14 Damn son, where'd you find this?
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| #28 / Thu, 01 Nov 12 22:15 southern hip hop is a mature sound????....
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| #29 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 00:32 The hell is trap??
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| #30 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 00:54 Posted by roachboy
I call bs on a bs article, about bs tracks, played at bs festivals by bs jocks but then again, I am 43years old.
yeah, you're too old for this shit, haha
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| #31 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 02:16 "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future."
Wise words!
Hype, Hype, Hype.
Don't worry, very soon it will all fade away.
Why???
Because TRUE MOVEMENTS are backed up by TRUE LOVERS.
This scene/sound/movement lacks a backbone.
We'll see what happens when the $$$$$$ stop feeding it.
Some people can tell when something's fake. Most don't.
Just sayin'...
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| #32 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 02:39 (Edited: 2 Nov 12 02:48) lol
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| #33 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 04:11 i blame it on the internet.
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| #34 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 05:37 (Edited: 2 Nov 12 05:57) The trap-edm do not really like is the new dubstep. I stay with the real trap "Gucci Mane, Soulja Boy, Lil B, Three 6 Mafia, Young Jeezy and more" generally speaking I find something nice this genre. there are good things What I detest is that the children/wannabes 6 months ago were doing remix to Skrillex, now they do Flosstradamus to him. V E R Y H Y P E. Before that Baauer and Flosstradamus, was fashionable "Trap-rave / trap-edm" . We listened to #BEEN #TRILL. #BEEN #TRILL is a DJ collective of creative directors who have worked closely with Ye. Their style is a mixture of being connected to urban culture while remaining inside the luxury life. They are known for playing trap. MembersPyrex Vision aka Virgil AblohVirg got picked by Kanye about 6-7 years ago to become his creative director and they have been close ever since. Probably the main piece and biggest example of this is the WTT cover and stuff on the tour, all the Ricardo Tisci Givenchy ****. Virg runs his own clothing line PYREX and his own boutique as well RSVP Gallery in Chi Town with Don. C. Pretty Blanco aka Matthew WilliamsMatt was the Creative Director for Lady Gaga from 2008 to 2010 and smashed all the women. He designed for the Haus of Gaga in that time. He designed her stage costume for her live performances in 2008, her World Tour in 2010, the music video for "Alejandro", the first Monster Ball Tour and "SUPREME x GAGA" which was his last project with her. He got picked up by yeezy recently and is working very closely with him on ****. He does a lot with Nick Knight of Show Studio as well. Maserati Flamez aka Heron PrestonHeron moved out to NY from cisco to go to Parsons and now works as a Jr. Strategist at Naked Communications. His claim to fame is his project, The Young and The Banging, even the likes of Nike like it and gave him the keys to a gallery to display it. Flo aka Florencia GalarzaFlo is the only member who was a DJ prior to the group being formed. Flo is a resident DJ at a club in NY and was inspired to DJ because she simply didn't like the **** that was being played in clubs. She got a call from Heron Preston saying that she was in #BEEN #TRILL and the rest is history. JRS Rules aka Justin SaundersBest known for his blog, jjjound.com. He has been featured in Complex as one of the Internet's most revered bloggers as of now. He also runs a online boutique j-shoppe.com which features his own designs and a couple of lifestyle pieces from various other companies. Yeezy World Peace aka Kanye Omari WestDo I really need to put anything here? the greatest human being ever.  soundcloud.com/illroots/been-trill-radio-1-mix-5-31-12 THIS HILARIOUS RESIDENT ADVISOR
he mysterious Uz, allegedly a dance music veteran in disguise. His online communications are spoken almost entirely in Unicode symbols (example: "ĐЯØPPIИ₲ ϺΫ ИЄШ ZЄDŽ ƉЄ∆Ɖ ЯЄϺIX ∆₮ H∆ЯƉ ƧƱϺϺЄЯ")
They speak well, example; RVN THX TRVP $HXT MXTHXRFVCKXR. It's the way he communicated SpaceGhostPurrp and his niggas. then A $ AP Rocky and his crew copied it. And Rocky's friends are trap-edm djs. and it became fashionable, if you write well is because you are TRILL and listen TRAP-MUSIC.
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| #35 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 08:45 "Any emergent genre is full of inevitable bandwagoners, yet trap seems defined by it rather than merely affected by it. This is even more of an "internet genre" than dubstep or moombahton, music popularized through Twitter and SoundCloud. As a result, most of the people making and enjoying it have no real connection with the original trap-rap scene—even though they gladly utilize its violent tropes. "A lot of these kids genuinely love straight-up trap music, they're just expressing that enthusiasm for it in a way that relates to them—a joyful, partying, affectionately ironic way... the appropriation issues can be viewed more like unfortunate byproducts of meta-modern kids being inspired by something outside of their direct world, the same impulse which drives this generation's identity-defining tools such as Tumblr," explains Jamie Teasdale, who produces as Kuedo."
spot on... i'd rather listen to waka flocka flame and gucci mane for the rest of my life than bumping this watered down suburban bullshit...
"trapaholics what's happnin', it's the brick squad young'n slim dunkin. snap that motherfuckin' back. squad!"
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| #36 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 10:33 hip hop is struggling to stay relevant in the US. EDM will die off and hip hop will return on top... but they love to stay cool. Why waste a discussion on this?
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| #37 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 11:22 whats the next sound to get tagged and devoured and spit out for the next fresh thing, the internet sure is speeding up the process...
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| #38 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 12:46 I thought it was going to be about trannies.
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| #39 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 14:41 "If I don't like this kind of music it isn't worth discussing," topped off by infantile hyperbole: Never change, RA forums.
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| #40 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 15:00 Posted by matoswk
"If I don't like this kind of music it isn't worth discussing," topped off by infantile hyperbole: Never change, RA forums.
After reading every comment of this thread this seemed like the appropriate last word.
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| #41 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 16:26 Trap: it rhymes with crap.
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| #42 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 22:04 Posted by olos
southern hip hop is a mature sound????....
no, it's not at all. i just mean that trap music itself is not a mature sound, which is the reason i can't get into it.
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| #43 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 22:23 so many fucking words. could i get some examples of what the sound is actually like
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| #44 / Fri, 02 Nov 12 22:38 the sad thing is...just like other "ghetto" styles of dance music , trap has been quickly adopted by middle class white hipsters..........further distinguishing itself as a fad and not at all worthy
im sure itll be huge for a while
much to my dismay and many others..here ont he west coast we have plenty of scenesters with identity crises every 9 months who need some new shit to attach to
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Next @ Nada | #45 / Sat, 03 Nov 12 03:09 I`ts defently causing a buzz from what I see. that guys sound cloud is huge. Listened to it, can`t argue it sounds like a future trend. Not that bad actually, but very far from dance floor or contemplative material for me.
Didn`t get the whole social issue.
I can defenetly see it crashing in no more than 5 years. Same with the whole 3ball scene in Mexico.
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| #46 / Sat, 03 Nov 12 14:25 What's 3ball?
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| #47 / Sat, 03 Nov 12 18:40 I'm sorry but i gave up after 3 sentences.Oh great,another shite genre of music to fill up the reviews section.Yawn.
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| #48 / Sun, 04 Nov 12 17:57 http://ryanhemsworth.bandcamp.com/track/benny-lava
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| #49 / Mon, 05 Nov 12 10:17 "spot on... i'd rather listen to waka flocka flame and gucci mane for the rest of my life than bumping this watered down suburban bullshit..."
preach
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| #50 / Mon, 05 Nov 12 18:59 Posted by olos
the sad thing is...just like other "ghetto" styles of dance music , trap has been quickly adopted by middle class white hipsters..........further distinguishing itself as a fad and not at all worthy
So for music to be legit it has to be liked by blue collar black people? Sure it may seem contradictory for suburbanite hipsters to like this sort of thing, but your line of thinking is racist & stupid. What would hip hop be without Double Dee & Steinski?
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