Because we need more.

im gonna have to agree. seems like the hype surrounding berghain/panorama bar just keeps escalating. lets see if they can handle it well.

Honestly, I didn't hear much of anything like this during my recent visits to Berghain. Ostgut Ton as a label has also veered away from this cliche. It's still rough and raw, but quite nuanced and melodic. If anything, it's mostly behind-the-curve US techno dudes rehashing this shit.

Not that Americans are all behind the curve. For every Berghain skeletal reverb kick dub techno track coming from here, you've got a Frenchman or Belgian rehashing Chicago 1988. Fuck it, just dance.

What the hell is Berlin techno? That's so fucking broad. And why would you want to sound like someone else anyway?

amen. but some of these attack tutorials give wrong ideas. sounds as signature as "berghain techno" or "dmz dubstep" wouldnt sound right imitated in a DAW. would be a lot easier to just produce what feels right to you.

yeah, kinda my point...fuck it, just make trax! then dance to 'em!

tutorials like this indicate the lack of imagination in a lot of techno music being made. if you cant figure this sh1t out without someone drawing you a picture you probably need to stop and take up another hobby.

Whoa, Even for a RA forum, that's a harsh post at best.

Even though you may look down on the article, In EVERY hobby/profession there are standard techniques that people have to learn.

Once you have the basics down, then you can get wild with the creativity and experimentation.

I agree with learning the basics, and i agree with tutorials. The fact that this tutorial is literally "put a kick on every 1. Then but a clap on every other kick. Add a hatt to the 3rd, 7th 11th and 15th." is ridiculous. I would argue that if you cannot listen to a techno record and then discern that this is what you should be doing to repeat that very very simple pattern then you are in the wrong game.

This is not a "standard technique", it is programming a 4/4 kick pattern, the most common pattern in house music pretty much.

Bear in mind im not being harsh about any specific people or insulting any individuals, i just think that a tutorial like this seems to be aimed at a 5 year old.

though, in this field, those standard techniques are not "berghain techno" or "mystik dubstep" and the likes. instead, learn how the machines (the real and the virtual ones) work, respectively how the machines work the sound, and then get wild.

and still, i doubt that pierre and spanky and herb sat down to study the roland tb-303... if they hadn't just fucked the little machine, acid may never have been born, almost thirty years ago. even if it may have been an exception to the rule - it is often those who don't follow the rules who actually make a difference.

i concur

Yeah, i admit that this article was a little on the easy side. Ok - Very much on the easy side

But, i am still happy that there are people willing to put knowledge out for free and I still think your comment was on the harsh side - but I understand what you were trying to get at.

I try and teach stuff like this to little kids (10-12 yr olds) and some of them would be grateful for this post, and that may hopefully lead them on to bigger and better and more creative things.

The real innately talented ones will know this intuitively, and they are the geniuses that re-write the rules for the rest of us not so talented ones (me) try to ape.


Anyway I don't want to come across all keyboard-bashy-shouty-angry!

What's next, a tutorial on how to plug in your computer? I should write up that tutorial for these guys...I've got some wicked power strip routing up in here it'll blow your mind.