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| RA News The UK producer's next LP is due out on Prime Numbers in February.
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| #1 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 11:41 This trend for soft porn / 'erotic art' artwork is pretty fucking lame.
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| #2 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 11:47 awesome!
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| #3 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 11:52 Posted by absolutemoron This trend for soft porn / 'erotic art' artwork is pretty fucking lame.
+1, especially when browsing at work!
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| #4 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 12:19 more side bewb!!
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| #5 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 12:36 absolutemoron, i'm with you there. i think it's a horrendous trend. and i think it needs a discussion too. a lot of people seem to think about house/dance music in sexual terms exclusively. just check out youtube, i mean, it's ridiculous. it's a kind of happy-go-lucky misogyny which disgusts me.
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| #6 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 13:10 http://thequietus.com/articles/07384-dance-music-misogyny
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| #7 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 13:11 @absolutemoron I echo you.
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| #8 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 13:11 (Edited: 6 Dec 12 14:38) Looking forward to hearing this.
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| #9 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 13:44 Posted by absolutemoron This trend for soft porn / 'erotic art' artwork is pretty fucking lame.
Aye. It only seems to be the house scene that gets this too. What a cheap, tawdry cliche that most likely echoes the content.
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| #10 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 14:15 Sideboob trend alert
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| #11 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 14:50 how stupid. don't expect the music to be any better.
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| #12 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 14:58 Happy is what I am right now due to this release turning into a reality!
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| #13 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 14:59 Small interview here about the launch of the new LP on Prime Numbers http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/06/trusme-returns-with-new-album-treat-me-right/
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| #14 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 15:43 Thanks for the Quietus link. This quote totally nails it: This is soft porn with a sheen of arty respectability - what Ben UFO half-jokingly referred to as the 'American Apparel-isation' of the UK scene - a subtle but insidious objectification of women, drip-fed into the hipster milieu via topless photo shoots in VICE, which nonetheless treats mainstream 'lad' culture with disdain.
Interesting timing to go back to that article, what with Sigha's new album on Scuba's Hotflush being one of the covers I had in mind that is contributing to this trend - and demonstrates that it isn't just restricted to the house scene. Perhaps I'm wrong to call it a 'trend' - this type of thing is as old as time - but I've personally noticed more such sleeves in what I'd consider the more supposedly thoughtful end of electronic music recently. Don't get me wrong, I would be a hypocrite to say I dislike pictures of naked ladies and never look at them (!). It's the combination of music with such imagery that I object to. Music is art and shouldn't need the 'sex sells' pitch. I feel that nobody really benefits. It cheapens the music and through that, the artist. It also contributes to this depressing 'boys club' culture within electronic music which sees sausage-fest events, girls groped, grinded or danced aggressively at in clubs, and relatively very few female DJs and artists (and those who do exist often objectified, patronised or generally treated differently - even though I'm unaware of any men who actually make music or mix with the main thing that makes them different from women - their penis). Basically, just keep it off our record sleeves. We should be better than that. Celebrating great design is more appropriate for great music. If I want to look at images of cheap objectification, I'll go to Youporn (or Vice if I'm feeling highbrow). Cheers.
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| #15 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 15:47 PS nothing against Trus'me - I like his music generally, it could have been one of any number of sleeves by other artists that prompted me to comment, and I guess the old maxim about books and covers comes into play - but nevertheless it's still an artistic decision that, in my opinion, reflects badly.
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| #16 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 16:11 bare prudes in this forum. 'omg she's showing her ankles!'
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| #17 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 16:36 Jesus Christ. Is this the Mormon Forum? This is art. Both the music and the cover represent something the artist is wanting to share. I can see it working many ways. It catches people attention and at the same time still have meaning to the artist and the music. I definitely would grab this out from the pile of records at the store  I guess they say "Never Judge a book by its cover", maybe you guys should maybe listen to the music before you start burning records and calling for a revolution. 
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| #18 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 16:50 Reminds me of an old soul song 'If you don't know me by now... you will never ever ever know me'. Trus'me is a genius, you should know that by now. If not, do your research. This album cover rocks in my opinion and for what its worth, who cares at the end of the day. Do you buy a house to look at the front door from the outside or to walk in and live? Get a fucking grip people. Cop the album. Its a beauty.
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| #19 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 17:02 to the music: his work is great, looking forward
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| #20 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 17:19 get a grip people, its only a cover! Izzy gets it. i've heard the album and its amazing. concentrate on the music, the rest is just a bit of fun. if you look all through the Prime Numbers catalogue, the design is tip top, as is the music. check this new remix Trus'me has just done for my illusion recordings label, its wicked. the album is just as good... give it a listen. https://soundcloud.com/illusionrecordings/ill006-volta-cab-dont-give-up we couldn't afford a sexy bird on all fours unfortunately 
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| #21 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 18:10
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| #22 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 18:34 Posted by bornimusic Reminds me of an old soul song 'If you don't know me by now... you will never ever ever know me'. Trus'me is a genius, you should know that by now. If not, do your research. This album cover rocks in my opinion and for what its worth, who cares at the end of the day. Do you buy a house to look at the front door from the outside or to walk in and live? Get a fucking grip people. Cop the album. Its a beauty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riOZoc8vyFQ
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| #23 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 19:48 I don't see what the problem is, art is subjective anyway. I think the cover looks good, the girl looks sexy and it fits to the music. It doesn't look pornographic and what children are exposed to on a daily basis is much worse than this sexy chic.
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| #24 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 21:46 Posted by kzzy Way to miss the point. This cover is a superb piss take of exactly what I'm talking about. Of course this issue is not the end of the world. I just find it a bit sad. Making your photo of your naked bird a bit more 'arty' or using a more 'hipster' model doesn't stop it from being a very small step away from a Clubland CD.
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| #25 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 21:53
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| #26 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 22:06 Posted by absolutemoron This trend for soft porn / 'erotic art' artwork is pretty fucking lame.
What a massive idiot? absolutemoron..... proper living up to your name! Have you actually even listened to the music??? Trus'me has always released really solid, honest music and this LP is top notch! if you want to bitch about artwork I strongly suggest you do your homework and check out his record label Prime Numbers. Not only does the label consistently release amazing music the artwork on the label is second to none, one of the slickest labels out there in terms of attention to detail. If your only contribution is " This trend for soft porn / 'erotic art' artwork is pretty fucking lame." you need to have have a word. How about you dedicate your life to music in the way Trus'me has and you may have a different point of view.
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| #27 / Thu, 06 Dec 12 23:27 Big up Manchester!
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| #28 / Fri, 07 Dec 12 03:19 While art/fashion photography nudity isn't quite the same as kicking it in the 2 Live Crew hot tub - neither of which I'm into - maybe leave the sideboob game to the moodiest of men: www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=13617 Personally, I like my interests separated. Management team www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uSZcbAQkL4 on this side, tunes on that side. But, I digress and the issue's been discussed at length in the aforementioned Quietus piece. Working Nights had the groove and I look forward to checking this out.
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| #29 / Fri, 07 Dec 12 03:32 Posted by JCOTTERILL What a massive idiot? absolutemoron..... proper living up to your name! Have you actually even listened to the music??? Trus'me has always released really solid, honest music and this LP is top notch! if you want to bitch about artwork I strongly suggest you do your homework and check out his record label Prime Numbers. Not only does the label consistently release amazing music the artwork on the label is second to none, one of the slickest labels out there in terms of attention to detail.
If your only contribution is " This trend for soft porn / 'erotic art' artwork is pretty fucking lame." you need to have have a word. How about you dedicate your life to music in the way Trus'me has and you may have a different point of view.
Hello J. No, I haven't heard this album. It's not released for 2 months and I've not been fortunate enough to hear an advance copy. I was commenting on what has been presented in this news piece - which doesn't include the audio. My initial comment wasn't even aimed specifically at Trus'me, it was an opinion on a more general trend to which I feel this artwork contributes. Thank you for the tip/homework, but I'm already quite familiar with Trus'me's music and label. We share mutual friends & acquaintances, through whom I've briefly met Dave a couple of times, and I respect him as a DJ, artist and label owner - but I don't feel that precludes me from voicing an opinion on one aspect of his work. I'm quite happy to call myself a moron, and god knows that is a fitting moniker at times, but I don't think holding an alternative view to you on this matter entitles you to refer to me in those terms. You're also somewhat off the mark to say that's my only contribution. Perhaps you missed the part where I stated: Posted by absolutemoron PS nothing against Trus'me - I like his music generally, it could have been one of any number of sleeves by other artists that prompted me to comment.
So, I don't think you need to take it as an affront to him personally, or his music. I'd say, judging from previous releases, there's a very decent chance I would enjoy the album, and I wouldn't let the choice of artwork cloud that judgment. Finally, you have jumped to conclusions when you clearly know nothing about me. I don't need to justify myself to you, but I can assure you that I have indeed committed my life to music. It is not only my lifelong passion but also my full-time job, and while there are countless people whose influence is greater than I could ever dream, I am perfectly satisfied that my experience and contribution to electronic music more than qualifies me to hold my point of view.
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| #30 / Fri, 07 Dec 12 11:16 (Edited: 7 Dec 12 11:33) WOW settle down everybody geeeezus.... -When you make a record and want to put your naked girlfriend(s) on the cover then you can too..... .....until then chill the fuck out people..... 
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| #31 / Fri, 07 Dec 12 11:25 artworks fine... what the hell are ppl bitching about? Trus'me is a solid producer too!
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 | RA Review If you've been following the recent remix packages on Prime Numbers, you will not be shocked to learn that Trus'me's third full-length finds the Manchester producer exploring new territory. The dusty drums, modest covers and soulful house infusions of his last two efforts are gone, and in their..
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| #32 / Mon, 18 Feb 13 14:18 So he rather likes a bit of the old 60's album artwork and perhaps gets into rubbing one out to the prons. I can view this as a nicely shot image, but also it's very loaded and not in the right way. This isn't about his chops as a producer. Whatever. It's about his choice of image and whatever implications it poses with the anonymity of the woman who has her hair pulled over the face and the language implicit in the title which aren't exactly leaving much out. For a forward thinking music, this is decidedly a step backward towards a meat market model, but oh. it's art because it is black and white. Rather funny that many of the images people are trying to show as examples are also quite old and essentially of another era which created many of the cultural moments which made house and techno possible. This is only a slight step to the side of the shedloads of compilation of meat market club music, and maybe slightly more sinister with the face being anonymous but the head still shown.
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| #33 / Mon, 18 Feb 13 15:53  MOOOO!!!
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| #34 / Mon, 18 Feb 13 16:15 don't you just love arguments that rest solely on canonical examples and their unchallanged quality?
petition for a rerelease with the new alternate bovine cover needed
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| #35 / Mon, 18 Feb 13 19:08 Saggy tits are saggy
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| #36 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 00:15 It's not about it being distasteful. Its just stupid to put tits on a cover if it doesn't actually do anything. This cover is the shittiest thing I've ever seen
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| #37 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 09:18 this is a music website, and a review on the music the producer has released, grow up you bunch of mormons...
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| #38 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 10:08 Look, the album shot is a demeaning, irrelevant pic. This not about 'correctness': the woman is anonymous and in a subjective position - what does this have to do with the music? Nothing. Worst Album Cover of the Year. And the music? What is Trus'me trying to say? I'm not sure I want to hear with such a ridiculous cover.
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| #39 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 10:17 p.s. the other pics posted of naked women are fine - they're not presented like the Trus'me shot - they just look like normal naked women. The Trus'me pic depicts women as mere sex objects.
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| #40 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 10:19 oh, except for Richard James lol
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| #41 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 22:31 This is an awful review.
Great album, who cares about the sequencing? It's music for dance floors not coffee shops.
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| #42 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 22:49 I'm with thejaguar. Having tits on the album cover isn't immoral, cool, interesting, shocking, or anything. It's just, well, dumb.
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| #43 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 23:00 Im in shock at how this image can create such anger in people.
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| #44 / Tue, 19 Feb 13 23:27 sorry, what's wrong with boobs ?
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| #45 / Wed, 20 Feb 13 07:23 if u going to review the album without samples, we quit reading the reviews, suckers
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| #46 / Wed, 20 Feb 13 11:40
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| The Feed XLR8R have a full stream of the Manchester producer's latest LP.
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| #47 / Wed, 20 Feb 13 12:37 House music is normally sooooo male, but look! This guy's used a picture of a naked woman! This music sounds sexier already!
lame
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| #48 / Wed, 20 Feb 13 16:56 Think the atmosphere in 'Hindsight' sounds great and the rawness of 'Somebody'. Definitely checking this on release...
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| #49 / Wed, 20 Feb 13 20:10 not a fan of the tunes on here - one or two that aren't bad but i wont be buying it.
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| #50 / Wed, 20 Feb 13 21:25 Saggy droopy boobs attempting to take advantage of the gravity to make it look less obvious. didn't quite work out lol!
This is not only lame but sad
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