why is it a remix of a track that doesn't have an original mix?

Read this on another forum a while ago, can't believe people were selling vinyl rips for that much!

Can understand why WPH are doing this but the exclusivity of the track is part of what makes it special.

Still glad I have it on vinyl anyway.

The original probably just never got released. It's not that uncommon.

It's neither. it is a remake of this classic Chicago house track, ESP - 'It's You'

great encouragement for legal music from someone just acquired by R1!!!

Jackmaster playing 10 different genres of music in an hour doesn't showcase a passion for music...Actually paying for your music would do though!

Well played Red D. Well played ...

Agreed Mr D. No sniff of sell out here.

As of now there's no way to obtain that track with the artist getting paid. I mean I think playing rips is kinda iffy, but morally it's no different from buying a record on discogs.

think red d explained himself very well. people who consume very often forget that for people making music this is often a full time job as well as an expression of their artistic bent. if people are re-selling their copies or crappy rips of it for big bucks then why shouldnt they get a taste of the action. as for jackmasters tweet, having some fucking integrity mate

The original ESP is better any innitt

*anyway

in this case you're right, but keep in mind that (a) many shops and artists sell their own releases on discogs and (b) the flippers might just spend the money made on more records. i would.

I guess Jackmaster would consider it fair then to do gigs for free.

couldn't of said it better myself, that san soda remix is incredibly snide, half these kids have been collecting tracks off beatport for the past 20 minutes that is including wannabee juke box jackmaster. It's an insult to the original esp track!

Lol, wph and intregrity. Real fuckin rich. Ask soda about how often he licenses his samples or pays for his covers. Dudes are a pair of hypocrites.

Ask him then, it can't be that hard in the 21st century, i'd like to know the answer as well...

I hate that this is even controversial. This limited vinyl shit is just getting embarrassing; if you love the music so much you'll probably want to be able to hear it outside of a club at some point.

Jackmaster said he'd pay for the original digi release when it came out to be fair.

Limited vinyl releases plus internet based-hype is bound to cause problems like this. People will rip it and then people will buy those rips and discog sales. That's inevitable, you cant really complain about it.

Calling San Soda and myself hypocrites without integrity is based on your perception. I don't know you and I don't work with you, so I really can't be offended, it's just your opinion. I would only be worried if somebody that really knows us and works with us accuses us like that.

But when you are attributing the work and the immense musical talent of San Soda to nothing but mere sampling I do feel the need to reply. Because in all his releases on WPH there are maybe two or three tracks that benefit from sampling, and even then it's not just copying the melody or whole musical parts, but rather vocal hooks or percussive elements.

On a sidenote: I never take anybody seriously that calls me a 'dude'. But maybe that's just because of the Big Lebowski :-p

RD

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I don't know man, I mean San Soda and RD have made a remix of a tune, and then someone (Will Azda) has come along and had another go.

SS & RD had the skills and the knowledge to revive the track originally, so I guess they're one up there for sure. But, their remix isn't so far away from the original; all Azda seems to have done is add the kick back with 2012 weight & production.

Surely its a bit hypocritical to smack down Azda for doing essentially what We Play House have done, albeit first?

As for illegal rips of music, well that just stinks big time, especially coming from a Radio One DJ.

Sorry to correct you on this but the ESP have full publishing on the FCL recording & this new recording has full permission from ESP's publishers. Always good to get your facts straight.

What the fuck is this all about? Grown men squabbling over some second rate disco vocal? It's not even a good tune for fuck's sake!

Yes, that's exactly why I only pressed up 150 copies... Next time before I make a decision to do something, I'll just ask you first what I'm going to do and why, that'll be easier :-p

It's the age where you can simply reach out to people directly and ask for their reasons on why they do something. I always find just asking it a bit more rewarding than just flaming people based on your own biased reasoning.

The same could go for Will Azada, he could've asked our opinion on bootlegging our version, and we would've said no. Have you actually read what the release notes of his bootleg say? Here it is:

"Finally available on vinyl, without pretension or smug justification of “clever” sampling, is the Improper Trax rework of the Chicago ’80s classic “It’s You.” Held high by many a DJ as the “superior” version of the highly limited late 2012 cover, thanks to its floor-focused treatment and unabashed preference to jack, it’s made the rounds at Panorama Bar, Fabric, Smart Bar, Rinse.FM and pretty much every other fine dance music institution around the globe. Despite antagonizing copyright claims on Youtube, empty threats from fake lawyers, and tough-guy chest-thumping from boastful Belgians, “The Heat” flips the dial to “fuck you” and lays it out for The People to just enjoy without all the elitist posturing. With that said, the “IMPROPER TRAX” begin!"

And then you expect me not to react? Calling real new recorded vocals by Lady Linn 'clever sampling'? Throwing in names where the remix was played just to get attention? Fake lawyers? Elitist posturing?

You have never even actually properly spoken to me, and neither has Will Azada, so how could you possibly know why we did what we did and how we did it? Get the facts, and then you can call us what you want, it'll be your opinion based on the facts, and as such a valid one. But not crying wolf when the beast is nowhere in sight please :-)

RD

This Improper Trax release is a horrible effort. The drum loop is shit and so is the mix; the vocals are completely dominated by the percussion.

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The Improper Trax version is a joke. It ruins everything that was good about the acapella tool with those idiotic drum tracks. This track is about the 'moment of pause'.

If it was an actual bootleg, then I would buy it in a heartbeat. I'll be buying the digital out of respect, but I hate playing cds/mp3s. Wish I had been more on top of watching the WPH website

I don't get why they won't repress just because some people were willing to pay way too much for a copy, but it's not my label is it? Hopefully, someone else can make a decent vinyl bootleg. If they don't want to make any more money selling the vinyl, then I have no problem buying one from someone with the guts to press it AND supporting their digi remix pack if that's the only medium they will provide.

nobody should care much at this point.

the song carries so much negative bullshit due to everyone's hype and bitterness no self respecting dj would play it out anyway. i mean, even if it was my style i wouldn't play it out.

dj tool stuff like this is supposed to just work its mysterious magic on the dance floor, not be some rock n roll shit with a dramatic back story that your nerdy music friend tells you all about the moment you hear it out.

fuck all of you for acting so stupidly, alienating the essence of music with your egos.

Fuck off all the people hating on We Play House, they're a phenomenal label who always does it right and deserve to be supported for all their hard work.

(we all know the best 12" this last year from them was still Toch Al De Vijfde E.P. anyways.... )

yawn

Would pay to see Red D get ghetto.

It's the opposite of this Matt :-)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajabNG7_774
RD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLmHXQOXX4I

sexy ladies, champagne and a sell-out San Soda edit..everything seems to be in order here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLmHXQOXX4I :

Now I know 'It's You' will be released on Valentine 2013

Next time you go into the studio (which you wont) and use an actual musician (also a no) to recreate a track that's truly bringing something unique (yeah no too) to the table for an adored classic and it's flamed / bootlegged / and dubbed a 'shitty edit' while your CDJ nexus 10,000 shocks you in the dick I'm going to sip some lemonade and laugh really hard.

They did this as a limited pressing and sold in their local record store to give something special back to the closest label fans and a bunch of people have turned this into dance music gossip girl. They made the track, they're free to do whatever the fuck they want with it, correct?

Why not devote all this energy and frustration into creating something really special yourself, wouldn't that be time better spent?

Or you could throw it over a drum loop and sell it on Boomkat while flaming the artist responsible for the 'terrible' vocal that you're using for profit.

ghetto? yeah right? he looks like mr.blobby

I'm sorry but "The Heat" is fucking awful. Poor effort.

A bootleg of a cover version...Who gives a fuck?! The wph release is little more than a gimmick now tbh, I love what those guys do with their label/music but I never really understood the hype of San Sodas version at all??

Makes you wonder whether there would be as much hype if it wasn't a limited release, I honestly doubt it!

I like Will Azada records also but have to admit it's a shite bootleg of nothing special cover version/tool.

this is the track? lol

just wanted to highlight this once more

Well, you must admit this is a great tekst to sell a record... ;-0

Hah people are taking themselves to seriously over here... San Soda is a talent ofcourse, and I think it's willing or unwilling great marketing from Red D with all this buzz and upset reactions on this track, got a deal with a big company, hopefully made some money out of this for the artists that made it and got a lot of awareness for the label....it's not such a bad thing is it?

RA is so much fun when it comes to flamewars...

Cool!

is it a bootleg or has he just used the same vocal?

yo i made me edit too.. initally im going release 50 listens on soundcloud and that's it! from philly with love

https://soundcloud.com/loopsky/carne-groove