it's a fu***** joke?

Bloc was a disaster last year, but id give one of these nights a go. surely they cant fuck up a couple of dj's in one building.....

Nice one!

Anyone who is moaning about this can fuck right off!
These guys are bringing some of the best artist and staying true to what they believe in.
Last summer was a major fail, but surely you can only learn from that.
Definitely happy about seeing dedicated and honest people in the London music scene, offering something different than your everyday East London party. Hope this is a success

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Rebuild faith in the brand and then I hope the Bloc weekend will be back (do one in Norfolk guys - they were the best).

Word

It's a shame that RA supports these clowns.
Before,they have to refunds the people,then they can organize others events.
They have to give money to me instead Juan Atkins.
It's a real shame.
They deserve to disappear from techno scene.

I think what people should remember is that it's not all about the money - sure there's FB threads full of people saying 'I'm still owed money' and that's fair enough. But at the heart of it the organisers went ahead with a festival so dangerously unsafe the old bill turned up after 3 hours to shut it down. Good music or not no one wants a broken arm queuing to see a set. Frankly I'm amazed the organizers have permission to put on another event.

Lightweight crooks.

Great to see Bloc back in the game.

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Yeah, because that won't lead to more overcrowding problems, will it?

Ho gia' commentato sul facebook con ingiurie, me l' hanno cancellato, ho ri-commentato, me l'hanno ri-cancellato, li ho fottuti. Spero muoiano sommersi da 10 overbooking... è uno scandalo che continuino ad organizzare eventi questi ladri ed è uno scandalo che artisti cosi' importanti non diano un segnale alla gente, che continua a seguire un 'evento' - o meglio circo- del genere.
Grazie ad Astaroth esiste l'Unsound che dopo avermi fatto ripigliare da questa batosta è l'unica luce in fondo al tunnel... speriamo che continui ad esistere!! Altrimenti i festival più grossi in Europa saranno in mano solo a cockney succhiapalle.

Even after the cluster fuck of last summer and losing out on a lot of money, I'm happy to see them back.

Its a right tricky scenario this isnt it? one one hand bloc had a great track record and were unparallelled in what they did until last summer. On the other they made a mess of things and people are still owed refunds.

It does seem a little odd that they can put on more events whilst people are still owed money, that concerns me to be honest. I get that its with the administrators now, but bloc must realise that you cannot simply wash your hands of what you did and move on to the next money making venture.

All the rhetoric in the world about how much they love music and getting great artists to play in london cannot distract from the fact that they will start turning over cash, and probably decent amounts of it, whilst people are still without refunds from their last failed event.

Ive always loved bloc, and really wish them the best but this just seems fucked.

Also, what relation are the baselogic boys to the Deadbeat crew? i thought (maybe mistakenly) that baselogic grew out of the old deadbeat festivals and matured into bloc but maybe im wrong.

No Dedbeat and Bloc are totally unrelated. Dedbeat ceased doing their weekenders and Bloc stepped in seeing the gap in the market.
Those Dedbeat weekenders were the best - the line ups were more interesting than Bloc IMHO.

gonna be in another shitty wick warehouse? or in your boat this time?

Thanks for the response. I remember hearing stories of deadbeat weekenders, amazing skam records showcases and just general carnage. shame i never made em. thanks for setting me straight on the matter

I didnt go
I didnt lose money
I'll def be going to see Omar S

shame they arent doing parties on stubnitz. that would be live

Imagine you bought a faulty television from a company that went into administration. Whilst many people in the same situation are able to get their money back (not from the company mind you, but from their bank), you cannot because of the way in which you originally paid for the television (perhaps you are abroad, for example). Now imagine that the people behind the original company set up another company and start selling televisions again, saying nothing to you other than that you should go and get the money back from your bank (which, of course, you can't). The company washes their hands of your claim for a refund directly, because hey, it's a new company right? Nothing to do with us (even though we're the same people). Tough luck for you.

Now imagine you dare to voice your disappointment in the situation and as a result people line up to call you a fucking whiner and a 'hater'.

How absurd would that be? And yet, this is exactly what's happening here. The promoters apparently have no intention of looking after the people who got royally fucked over last time. Indeed, they've set up a new company that expressly washes its hands of those people. But we're all supposed to not mind because this is dance music and they love the scene: stop moaning, and eat it up.

Resident Advisor could have done with asking a few more challenging questions of these guys. That's two times since last year's disaster that they've been given rather easy rides that read more like promotional pieces than proper interviews.

(I got my own money back, for what it's worth)

dry your eyes you lot. it happens.

If you don't like it don't go and don't support them.

EAST LONDON TBA, BABY
EAST LONDON TBA, BABY
EAST LONDON TBA, BABY
EAST LONDON TBA, BABY
EAST LONDON TBA, BABY
EAST LONDON TBA, BABY
EAST LONDON TBA, BABY

WHERE IS MY REFUND???? LAST YEAR WAS A FUCKIN FESTIVAL OF SHIT!!!

Can Tonka please be sent there as RA's roving reporter???

PLEASE
tonkawrdm.blogspot.com/2012/07/wrdm-bloc-2012

Gonna refix Daftendirekt with these bars fam, gonna be liveooooooooooooooo

Are you kidding me?!? Where is our £250.00 from the disaster that was Bloc 2012. You owe a lot of innocent punters some serious money. This is shameful. Anyone who was at Bloc knows the reason it was cancelled - greed and dire incompetence.

Second that. Seeing as he covered covered the last one so well.

Fuck Bloc.

plenty of other festivals, don't forget, from promoters who did not fuck up as bloc did last year. Bloc, thankfully, can never corner the market.

additionally, may not the banks who paid out on chargebacks have claims against the company since they are continuing to trade?

thats the thing with administration. to you and I it appears that they are "continuing to trade" but in reality a new company (with slightly different name) will have been set up at companies house so for their purposes it has nothing to do with the company that went into admin off the back of the festival.

Unfortunately its all above board, perfectly legal, and shitty for 'creditors' (ticket holders, amongst many other stakeholders) who are owed money they will never now get back.

'Bloc' is a trading name or brand of whatever the company is actually called. the new company will probably have paid the old company a nominal fee for use of / the transfer of the bloc brand or something.

This whole scenario happens very frequently to be honest, if you spoke to any insolvency practitioner. A well known comparison case, if you know football at all, is Leeds united who essentially went into admin, paid 1p in the £1, shed the old debts and started afresh. going from "leeds united afc ltd" to "leeds united 2007 ltd"

Ha not a chance

But Model 500... so conflicted

Very well explained, thank you. This may very well have been what transpired. The company which set up Bloc 2012 (Baselogic Productions) is still in existence though (according to UK Company House filings), but it is true that they may have sold on the bloc name to another of their own companies. Which is rather shitty.

Really well said!

it may be bad timing, but in the same context as the example given, it is not possible for someone who made a bit of a fuck up to ever return to the same type of business again? At least it wasn't a deliberate scam like a lot of people who exploit these legal loopholes do.

Like, yeah Im a bit pissed off that I aint got my 100 quids back, but I also wanna see Delroy

sounds like nobody has a refund yet if you read the comments on facebook!

"New studio venue" "East London TBA" etc - I think Bloc should probably listen to their fans - supporters and now detractors alike - and maybe learn a bit from their mistakes, and let people know where the venue is and what it is. They were coy about releasing the venue information well in advance of the festival at London Pleasure Gardens, which didnt work out too well in the end. Lets hear what this new amazing venue is (IIRC that was what they told us about the Pleasure Gardens...) and where it is so we can organise our transport there if we want to go to one of their sessions. And not be stranded with chaos afterwards if there's a problem.

Some of the lineups are good but I'm not going to the first few until they've shown they can get their shit together. Last year was a disaster, a real enormous fuck up, and although I got my money back, I still took the Friday off work to go, which was annoying to waste my annual leave. Their attitude before the festival last year was also pretty lousy, the interview with Alex in the run up to it showed him to be a complete tosser with no sense of organisation, or actually caring about music fans.

Wont be giving any of my hard earned cash over to this mob ever, even if their lineups are good.

This.

would be nice to think that everyone deserves a 2nd chance. There are so many factors involved and a very complex issue and while the annoyance of loosing money is understandable, isnt it time to move on now

its a killer space with some nice line ups, we'll certainly be going down.

lolling! sweet n salty mix?

Savvy people got their money back... Just saying. You could always join Quidco, they do cashback...
I seem to recall quite a few people lording their praise prior to last year (non) events. Seems you're only as good as your last event. mistakes were made, hopefully they've learnt from it... move on people, move on. Its not like Jimmy Savile wasnt involved...

Fair play to Bloc boys.

Great. An east London hipster wank fest. Because if any city needed more club nights it was London.

Not sure that all of the problems that occurred at Bloc at the LPG were 100% down to Bloc, without a doubt there has to be some blame apportioned to those behind the running of the pleasure gardens, there were many short falls and not all of them can be put on Bloc. Either way it looks like Bloc has a lot to do to regain the trust of faithful ticket buyers, will be watching this with a keen eye.....

They can fuck right off. Bunch of muggy cunts.

No one's ever happy in London by the sound of it.