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| #1 / Tue, 26 Aug 08 19:31 A little mistake in the topic: not GU36 but GU35 
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| #2 / Tue, 26 Aug 08 19:45 They still make these?
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| #3 / Tue, 26 Aug 08 19:58 Hmm...looks promising. Glad to see Warren back up to form. What's all this about 'dodgy mixing?' He's sounded fine to me all along!
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| #4 / Tue, 26 Aug 08 20:17 Cheers Hanki. 
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| #5 / Tue, 26 Aug 08 20:30 seriously? i used to like GU but do we really need another nick warren mix?
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| #6 / Tue, 26 Aug 08 21:00 "dodgy mixing"......Who Nick Warren?........I'm not aware of anyway.........GU35 looks good.
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| #7 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 01:06 ...9 out of 35 mixes for a mix series, does not seem too "global" anymore, locations aside. (which i realize is the pitch) nor are they reletivly near "underground" these days.
if the idea of these mixes are to introduce electronic music to new ears, mission accomplished...but how about introducing someone new to put them together. there is no shortage of world class DJ's who could be a refreshing change for the GU series...imo.
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| #8 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 02:19 Derek howell needs to do one.
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| #9 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 03:40 3 GU's???
Its like there are no artists out there
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| #10 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 06:33 surely this wont hurt.. Nick is a seasoned campaigner and he'll deliver.
yeah, GU needs some new-er names to take the 'Global..' series forward. I still cant fathom why Lee Burridge or Van M havent done one yet.
Or get someone like Elke Kleijn or Oliver Moldan to do one..
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| #11 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 13:26 quote:
Posted by groovefactor
surely this wont hurt.. Nick is a seasoned campaigner and he'll deliver.
yeah, GU needs some new-er names to take the 'Global..' series forward. I still cant fathom why Lee Burridge or Van M havent done one yet.
Or get someone like Elke Kleijn or Oliver Moldan to do one..
Burridge has done mixes in the Nu Breed and 24/7 series for GU.
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| #12 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 13:36 the problem is balancing integrity and innovative talent with sales capability- none of the DJs mentioned above would deliver a profit for GU... Fabric don't make a profit from their CD releases they sell so few, it's all about the club, the albums are a promotional tool -same with Balance, they make no money.
I've heard the album and it's one of the best in the entire series, without a doubt.
And how can oyu say that it's not underground???? I hadn't eard of one of those tracks and they're all EXCLUSIVE to the album- u can't ask for more than that!!
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| #13 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 14:25 quote:
Posted by cherryjam
the problem is balancing integrity and innovative talent with sales capability- none of the DJs mentioned above would deliver a profit for GU... Fabric don't make a profit from their CD releases they sell so few, it's all about the club, the albums are a promotional tool -same with Balance, they make no money.
I've heard the album and it's one of the best in the entire series, without a doubt.
And how can oyu say that it's not underground???? I hadn't eard of one of those tracks and they're all EXCLUSIVE to the album- u can't ask for more than that!!
Its the same with Renaisance these days, they are trying to make money from a failing cd market by re-hashing old familiar names. When GU started they were all we had to listen to new dj mixes, now we have the internet with a massive amount of great podcasts and promo's online for free. I agree, GU is no longer underground, listen to Housecats effort, infact i expect to see GU cd's mixed in with "the best of hardcore rave" and basshunter cd'd soon. True underground is like what we often hear on  podcasts.
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| #14 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 14:39 (Edited: 27 Aug 08 15:05) Seeing as the Fabric Cds sell in major quantities throughout all of the UK's major cd outlets I'd be highly surprised if they failed to make a profit.
Cd sales are business at the end of the day and if the labels aren't making money then how are they going to stay afloat? It's definitely a balancing act and I'd personally say that GU have done a much better job of keeping their integrity than most others. They've tried mixing it up with the likes of Layo & Bushwacka and Adam Freeland, but at the same time they're giving the fanbase what they want with another Warren mix. Either the music's good or it's bad, and that's surely all that counts.
I was personally dissapointed by Paris so will be awaiting Lima with some apprehension.
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| #15 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 14:46 quote:
Posted by groovefactor
surely this wont hurt.. Nick is a seasoned campaigner and he'll deliver.
yeah, GU needs some new-er names to take the 'Global..' series forward. I still cant fathom why Lee Burridge or Van M havent done one yet.
Or get someone like Elke Kleijn or Oliver Moldan to do one..
yeah bring on eelke  !!!
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| #16 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 16:00 would like to see someone else doing a GU for once
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| #17 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 17:38 Darren Emerson is doing one of the next Global Underground mixes. He doesn't know from which city/country it will be yet but said he hopes it will be somewhere warm.
its a good interview:
http://www.endclub.com/node/46465
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| #18 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 17:52 quote:
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Posted by cherryjam
the problem is balancing integrity and innovative talent with sales capability- none of the DJs mentioned above would deliver a profit for GU... Fabric don't make a profit from their CD releases they sell so few, it's all about the club, the albums are a promotional tool -same with Balance, they make no money.
I've heard the album and it's one of the best in the entire series, without a doubt.
And how can oyu say that it's not underground???? I hadn't eard of one of those tracks and they're all EXCLUSIVE to the album- u can't ask for more than that!!
Its the same with Renaisance these days, they are trying to make money from a failing cd market by re-hashing old familiar names. When GU started they were all we had to listen to new dj mixes, now we have the internet with a massive amount of great podcasts and promo's online for free.
I agree, GU is no longer underground, listen to Housecats effort, infact i expect to see GU cd's mixed in with "the best of hardcore rave" and basshunter cd'd soon.
True underground is like what we often hear on podcasts.
Bit harsh that last bit! But yeah, professional record labels without clubs attached to them can't survive putting out the coolest of the cool underground music cause about 4 people would actually end up buying them... it's not a charity out there. GU still do their artist albums through GU Music and they sell double figures and no more, yet they continue to put them out cause they want to support new talent- they're still there sticking up for the underdog. You have to give them a break, they never went for 'underground' in the sense you're talking of -Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed -they were the biggest names in the market when GU started out. I honestly doubt that Fabric make much of a profit, if any, from their releases- most of their albums are sold through their membership scheme which is £7 per month and they never chart higher than about 50 in the comps charts. Good news about Darren, perfect example of a GU DJ, a brilliant producer aswell as being a great DJ- his last track Crash Jack seems a retunr to form...Who else do you reckon is big enough to do a DJ city series - we wouldn't want medicore medium level DJ dilluting that particular series would we?
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| #19 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 19:44 quote:
Posted by cherryjam we wouldn't want medicore medium level DJ dilluting that particular series would we?
It's precisely this attitude that ensures that the series keeps the same boring dj's returning. I haven't liked a single Warren mix in the series, nor do I like the Emerson ones. Still they keep coming back 
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| #20 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 21:14 there were times (ages ago) when nick warren was amazing...such a shame !!!
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| #21 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 22:50 I don't know what every one is complaining about. In my humble opinion the Nick Warren releases are of the finest in the series and get a lot of repeat play still. So was GU20 by Emerson.
I skipped the housecat after the tragedy by Freeland and the terrible discs by Layo & Bushwacka but I'll def. go for this!! Looking forward already!!!
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| #22 / Wed, 27 Aug 08 22:57 Oh, and the dodgy mixing? Very weird comment. It's not a live-set and I haven't found one flawed transition on his cd's (well, maybe on GU3, but hey, that is ancient history).
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| #23 / Thu, 28 Aug 08 05:59 (Edited: 31 Aug 08 08:48) quote:
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yeah, GU needs some new-er names to take the 'Global..' series forward. I still cant fathom why Lee Burridge or Van M havent done one yet.quote]
Burridge has done mixes in the Nu Breed and 24/7 series for GU.
Nu Breed came at a time when relatively newer djs put out edgy and moody mixes. I loved most of the Nu Breed mixes but they never carried the same line of thought or depth as the GU main series.
Lee is now in a position to offer an encore of a performance on the series. even if he makes Lee Burridge : Antartica, I am confident it'll be a hot mix!
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| #24 / Thu, 28 Aug 08 06:10 quote:
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And how can oyu say that it's not underground???? I hadn't eard of one of those tracks and they're all EXCLUSIVE to the album- u can't ask for more than that!!
I agree with you there, as the fine line of 'underground' is crossed over many times by tracks, without people giving them the credit they deserve. As you said, you havent heard them tracks, so they're underground of sorts for u. And exclusivity should be appreciated.
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| #25 / Fri, 29 Aug 08 15:54 I've always liked Warren's downtempo CDs in his GU releases. Loved Disc one of Reykjavik.
The whole argument about having to give GUs to big names in order to sell - yeah OK i get it. But that doesn't forgive them for picking Warren for the 58th time OR picking unexciting DJs such as Da Housecat & Freeland. There are plenty of other interesting choices out there that could still sell CDs IMO.
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| #26 / Fri, 29 Aug 08 16:04 Nick is still one of the best DJ's out there. Every time I have seen him it has been spot on and great times. Seek out his recent live sets and see for yourself.
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| #27 / Fri, 29 Aug 08 17:36 quote:
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Nick is still one of the best DJ's out there. Every time I have seen him it has been spot on and great times. Seek out his recent live sets and see for yourself.
So what? That doesn't mean he should be the only dj to be featured in the GU series! It sucks for people like me who don't like his style, but do like other GU releases (I think Digweed's LA and Sasha's Ibiza releases are great for instance). Btw, before anyone thinks that I'm slagging off this particular mix, I think the tracklist looks very promising and I'll definitely try to give this one a listen!
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| #28 / Fri, 29 Aug 08 18:02 quote:
Posted by cherryjam
the problem is balancing integrity and innovative talent with sales capability- none of the DJs mentioned above would deliver a profit for GU... Fabric don't make a profit from their CD releases they sell so few, it's all about the club, the albums are a promotional tool -same with Balance, they make no money.
I've heard the album and it's one of the best in the entire series, without a doubt.
And how can oyu say that it's not underground???? I hadn't eard of one of those tracks and they're all EXCLUSIVE to the album- u can't ask for more than that!!
mate those CD's make A LOT of profit when put under the EDM microscope. Otherwise, they would not release them
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| #29 / Sat, 30 Aug 08 03:41 i want!!
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| #30 / Sat, 30 Aug 08 04:18 Flamman...what are you going on about? LA was Ibiza were both great albums, but they are both very outdated now (#19 and #13 repectively). Lima is volume 35 of the GU city series. And why does everyone complain about Warren's frequency of releases on GU? If you don't like him then don't buy the album his mixes. GU is not the only label out there pumping out albums. I on the other hand, love the guy. I was hoping GU would dedicated a series just for him like they did with Steve Lawler's Lights Out series.
Bring on Lima...Warren tops my list of exceptional DJ's.
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| #31 / Sat, 30 Aug 08 09:38 @ Cloudman: if you read my posts well, my point is not so much the fact that I dislike Warren mixes, but that GU is NOT intended to be a dedicated mix series (insofar as I've understood) and that in repetitively choosing the same dj's to mix their cd's, other dj's who might be just as good are being denied recognition.
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| #32 / Sat, 30 Aug 08 12:05 quote:
Posted by cherryjam
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the problem is balancing integrity and innovative talent with sales capability- none of the DJs mentioned above would deliver a profit for GU... Fabric don't make a profit from their CD releases they sell so few, it's all about the club, the albums are a promotional tool -same with Balance, they make no money.
I've heard the album and it's one of the best in the entire series, without a doubt.
And how can oyu say that it's not underground???? I hadn't eard of one of those tracks and they're all EXCLUSIVE to the album- u can't ask for more than that!!
Its the same with Renaisance these days, they are trying to make money from a failing cd market by re-hashing old familiar names. When GU started they were all we had to listen to new dj mixes, now we have the internet with a massive amount of great podcasts and promo's online for free.
I agree, GU is no longer underground, listen to Housecats effort, infact i expect to see GU cd's mixed in with "the best of hardcore rave" and basshunter cd'd soon.
True underground is like what we often hear on podcasts.
Bit harsh that last bit! But yeah, professional record labels without clubs attached to them can't survive putting out the coolest of the cool underground music cause about 4 people would actually end up buying them... it's not a charity out there.
GU still do their artist albums through GU Music and they sell double figures and no more, yet they continue to put them out cause they want to support new talent- they're still there sticking up for the underdog.
You have to give them a break, they never went for 'underground' in the sense you're talking of -Paul Oakenfold, Sasha, John Digweed -they were the biggest names in the market when GU started out.
I honestly doubt that Fabric make much of a profit, if any, from their releases- most of their albums are sold through their membership scheme which is £7 per month and they never chart higher than about 50 in the comps charts.
Good news about Darren, perfect example of a GU DJ, a brilliant producer aswell as being a great DJ- his last track Crash Jack seems a retunr to form...Who else do you reckon is big enough to do a DJ city series - we wouldn't want medicore medium level DJ dilluting that particular series would we?
I dont think that last part was harsh, iv seen renaissance and GU comps in with all the main stream comp cd's, even Tenaglias new one nestled with Basshunter. If GU want to keep flying the progressive flag i think they are going to need to try some fresh dj's, like Fabric do for techno. Thats why when GU announce a new cd and its the same names from 10 years ago people yawn, they dont get excited, look at the buzz on the dance boards when a new Fabric cd is announced. As for medicore dj's spoiling the good name of GU? There are many fantastic Prog dj's out there, fresher and more exciting in sound than the older names, it isnt the issue that they will spoil GUs reputation, infact they will most likley do it good, its the fact that wont sell as many or be as high profile as Warren and co, quality and newness compromised for familiarity and safeness of sales. I dont blame GU for doing it but they are leaving themselfs looking stale and behind the times.
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| #33 / Sat, 30 Aug 08 16:55 listen to emerson's paraguay mix, any genuine rhythm fan who doesn't find it sound, in selection, is one those wankers who prefers a drop of water as a beat, you fuckin heard me!!!!
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| #34 / Mon, 01 Sep 08 08:03 somebody seems pissed off here 
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| #35 / Mon, 01 Sep 08 08:03 (Edited: 2 Sep 08 14:33) this music.. infact most music.. should make people smile!  if not.. it should atleast make you groove RA
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| #36 / Mon, 01 Sep 08 08:12 quote:
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listen to emerson's paraguay mix, any genuine rhythm fan who doesn't find it sound, in selection, is one those wankers who prefers a drop of water as a beat, you fuckin heard me!!!!
That'd be Uruguay and yes, there are some excellent tracks on there, but I've heard them all mixed in a more interesting fashion. Love the cd1 opening track though!
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| #37 / Mon, 01 Sep 08 08:34 (Edited: 1 Sep 08 08:41) I started collecting the mixes from pretty much the beginning with Nick Warren 003 and have found that the Nick Warren mixes are some of the best and imaginative of the whole series. I gave up buying them after the recent Sharam and Layo & Bushwacka mixes failed to excite, but will give this one a listen. I don't see why everybody is getting so irate about this issue. There are so many good compilations out there. If you don't like one, listen to another. A little off topic but one thing I have found though is that the quality of published mixes seems to go down whilst the quality of podcasts seems to be getting better and better. In addition to the excellent mixes there are so many quality ones like www.electronicgroove.com/EG025LeeBurridge.php for example.
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| #38 / Mon, 01 Sep 08 19:32 I've always found the GU series a hit & miss affair (1 disc hits the other to fill up the extra large packaging). However, way back they seemed to be the only "underground" compiliation series around at the time that put out decent cd's that I could remember. Sasha - Ibiza, Emerson - Urguary, Warren - Reykjavik weren't too bad I thought but its all about the destinations sample cd, best tracks from a variey of the series.
Whens this Lima business out then?
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| #39 / Tue, 02 Sep 08 11:36 GU promo says Oct 13th, gets better and better with each listen 
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| #40 / Tue, 02 Sep 08 14:27 quote:
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GU promo says Oct 13th, gets better and better with each listen
thats another thing about GU mixes over the years.. most of them get better with every listen. so two GU releases in Sept. thats good!
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| #41 / Tue, 02 Sep 08 17:51 (Edited: 2 Sep 08 22:38) The thing is i used to love the GU series and get really excited about their releases. Unfortunately for me this has not happened since Howells really.
Fair enough if their pick of DJ doesn't excite me then sure i can just choose not to purchase the CD. I don't think people WANT to dump on GU but react negatively to the same choices made because they actually love the GU brand and are waiting for the series to excite them again...well i am anyway.
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| #42 / Wed, 08 Oct 08 12:01 Thanks GU for another installment...I have all the GU's since launch and Nick's mixes have always been right up there (Although Paris was just to ambient for me)
I really agree with cherryjam in that each play brings new listening experiences that you might have missed before.
Really looking forward to the new series and Eric Prydz in Stockholm!!!
Keep it going now!
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| #43 / Mon, 13 Oct 08 18:29 Listening to GU35 right now. pretty good so far.
I want to see a GU by eric prydz. that would sell albums.
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| #44 / Tue, 14 Oct 08 02:34 quote:
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Listening to GU35 right now. pretty good so far.
I want to see a GU by eric prydz. that would sell albums.
He's next up in the series as it happens..
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 | RA Review When thinking of Global Underground it's almost impossible not to think of Nick Warren. He's delivered seven mixes for the label over the past decade and has become synonymous with not only the GU brand, but progressive house in general. But after the landmark Reykjavik mix and the excellent follo..
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| #45 / Wed, 15 Oct 08 10:25 I thought Darren Emmerson was next.
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| #46 / Wed, 15 Oct 08 17:09 If GU wanna keep prog alive (and they can) they need to freshen things up a bit.
I Love warren's music, and I wouldn't mind another mix.
But lately, the excitement of "who's gonna mix the next GU release" has vanished. Now it's either Warren, or a crappy mix from an Un-proggy Dj. Layo & Bushwacka were a good choice but they screwed it up in my opinion.
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| #47 / Wed, 15 Oct 08 21:52 i used to love GU back in the day but after GU27 everything just does not deliver anymore...35 is just meh very progressive housey stuff does not stand out in the crowd at all
i wish mr warren would do ala Reykjavik album instead of just mixing stuff you can hear on proton or frisky everytime you tune in
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| #48 / Wed, 15 Oct 08 22:43 Can someone post the track times?
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| #49 / Thu, 16 Oct 08 04:52 This is one hell of a compilation. Stays true to deep melodic progressive.
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| #50 / Thu, 16 Oct 08 11:39 I believe it's Emmerson then potentially Prydz... Also heard a few rumours that they're bringin back Nu Breed  I think I'd wet myself
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