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 | | Resident Advisor Posts / 8521 RA Since / Aug 2001 | #0 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 13:13 RA Feature In advance of her appearance at Club to Club this weekend, we take a peek into the Panorama Bar resident's record bag.
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Everlasting Nothingness Posts / 45 RA Since / Jun 2009 Location / Berlin Next @ Klubnacht - Dial | #1 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 13:15 Nice one. Great selection and what a great dj she is! 
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Posts / 168 RA Since / Sep 2005 Location / Galway, Paddyland Next @ Klubnacht - Dial | #2 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 14:27 thats right, steffi rocks, such energy and enthusiasm behind the decks and of course great tunes. she is dutch, not german tho. 'give us back our bikes!"
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Posts / 124 RA Since / Oct 2007 | #3 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 14:38 getting rid of that 'minimal' thang...  yes!
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New user Posts / 6 RA Since / Oct 2008 Location / São Paulo | #4 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 15:06 nice words and great selection!
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| #5 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 15:28 Nice piece.. +1 for Restoration getting some love. Didn't know their tracks were done in only one take, amazing!
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| #6 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 16:53 Lucretio is amazing.
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Posts / 198 RA Since / Feb 2008 Location / Glasgowww | #7 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 17:03 nooiiice
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| #8 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 17:47 Great piece, great tune selection, great DJ......she rocked our party on Sat
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| #9 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 18:10 she's a great dj judging by the mixes i've heard from her. looking forward to seeing her live sometime. thanks for this piece, definitely gonna try to find some of these records.
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Posts / 222 RA Since / Oct 2007 Location / Manchester | #10 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 18:44 i actually love her
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Posts / 10 RA Since / Oct 2008 | #11 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 20:12 I concur with the last comment.
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Posts / 17 RA Since / Oct 2007 | #12 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 20:22 Whatever... I don't see the point of all this minimal hating.
It's over-exposed right now which has highlighted it's draw backs, but 10 years ago everyone was banging on about "dull deep house", even when great tunes were being written
There's only 2 types of music, good and bad... and that's subjective. Shit, there are songs I hated last year that I love now, and vice versa. You've gotta choose your own path.
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Posts / 68 RA Since / Dec 2007 | #13 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 20:26 would like to see steffi for panoramabar 03
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Posts / 190 RA Since / Apr 2007 | #14 / Wed, 04 Nov 09 20:50 @ magic ben
Thats how it is man sound of the season seems to be Deep House and producing tunes which sound like 10 years ago. I love some of them. But its also stupid that now everythings so retro, that cant be the answer. Why cant there just be a good balance ?
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Posts / 222 RA Since / Oct 2007 Location / Manchester | #15 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 00:29 Posted by larbgai
@ magic ben
Thats how it is man sound of the season seems to be Deep House and producing tunes which sound like 10 years ago. I love some of them. But its also stupid that now everythings so retro, that cant be the answer. Why cant there just be a good balance ?
looking at the RA top 50 in november i wouldn't at all say deep house is the sound of the season! but fuck, if you care what the sound of the season is then you aren't being true to yourself, do your own thing, don't follow the crowd... house music never went away for me. it never will do, oh and what nowadays most people refer to as deep house - it ain't DEEP HOUSE!
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| #16 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 06:35 big support & respect for steffi . great dj and really excited that she is getting into production . well done lady !!!!
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| #17 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 08:13 Magic Ben right on the money there... Nice tune selection though..Steffi is a bit special
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New user Posts / 3 RA Since / May 2008 | #18 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 08:42 Really like her sets but it starts to get boring that right now every dj is so "happy" that minimal is gone and surprisingly everybody "never" played stuff like this......... All this categorising of music makes me yawning
Good music is good music no matter what you play and right now there are as well so many boring "deep" sets around...........
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| #19 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 13:49 Yeah the whole mnml hating thing is quite funny... Despite alot of dross coming out in that period there were many brilliant records of those times. Same with deep house now...alot of crap but also gems. Steffi however certainly picks out the gems! Seriously the DJ I MOST want to see spin right now... every mix I've gotten has been excellent and these picks are just fantastic. Someone needs to bring her to NYC... House N Home crew, get on the phone to Berlin! Please! Had no idea about Restoration Records but their stuff sounds dope! www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0WoCCL1Po&feature=related
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Posts / 190 RA Since / Apr 2007 | #20 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 14:13 Youre alright. Good music is good music. But the good thing about the good mnml tunes like for instance Solomuns Prayer on cadenza was that they delivered something really new and amazing.They transcended House History . Most of the Deep House tunes apart from Producers like John Roberts really try to copy those old house kicks, same synths, same lines, same drums I mean i love it but ... But yeah this Parrish thing is pure gold ;-)
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| #21 / Thu, 05 Nov 09 21:12 yeah , those who spit on minimal right now are the ones that embraced it a few years ago , and will spit on deep house when it is not hyped anymore in a few month ...
so stop the bullshit , deep house all night is boring , as well as minimal all night , as a dj you've got to spin eclectic shit in order to please the audience , and stop the "this thing is has been" bla bla , or nobody will take you seriously... people want hard stuffes sometimes , not a warm up sound all the night ...
Another thing , some producers used to be hardcore minimal and then because of the beatport chart , they now produce deep house ? what the heck ?
i dont think this deephouse trend will last long though , it is so obvious that it is just a big hype, i mean , all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit ? just buy the genuine shit ... and dont give more money to people that only produce what is working at the moment , i could say names but i wont , you know who i am referring too ;-)
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The Random One Posts / 412 RA Since / Feb 2007 Location / West Yorkshire Next @ Hard Wax XX | #22 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 01:00 "all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit ".
I dont agree with this. There are a lot of fresh & forward thinking deep house producers out there. If you say the sound is the same from the last ten years you may aswell say the same about techno, disco and all the other sub genres.
I agree about the fact that quite a few producers have jumped on the deep house bandwagon - but these weren't any good in the first place.
As for Steffi - she clearly knows how to put a set together, & like no other. DJ of the year for me.
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| #23 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 02:39 (Edited: 6 Nov 09 02:45) Posted by JoseMclean
"all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit ".
I dont agree with this. There are a lot of fresh & forward thinking deep house producers out there. If you say the sound is the same from the last ten years you may aswell say the same about techno, disco and all the other sub genres.
I agree about the fact that quite a few producers have jumped on the deep house bandwagon - but these weren't any good in the first place.
As for Steffi - she clearly knows how to put a set together, & like no other. DJ of the year for me.
well there is nothing new in the new disco trend , it is just pimping old italo disco ... As for the new deep house thing , it is the same gimmicks , the same samples that are used to produce the shit. of course there is something new in the means , no more shitty akai sampler , but ableton live is used to produce , so no limitations in tracks , effects , etc ... but is the result better ? i dont think so ... Again , i respect the guys , oslo , cecile , old deep house pioneers etc ... they stuck to deep house and didnt try to jump in the minimal wagon ... But some other folks that were playing minimal all the way and are now jumping in the deep house wagon are just jokes , period , of course you need to evolve , of course you need to be booked , but you need to make room for the true players too , or you lack personality ... isnt it what we ask from our artists , or labels ? personnality ? isn't this website , resident advisor , about personnality , where as djmag is about trend ? i thought so ... if the scene now is , always the same guys booked that plays just what works ( due to the easy availability of music content ... ) , is it worth it ? those guys who were minimal then , and are deep now , and will be something after , they do not leave room for genuine players , those who stick to a genre and dont follow trends... some of my favorite artists , i used to go see them on club , are playing deep now ... wtf ?( i dont pay 15 euros to hear the play deep house but minimal , if i want to hear deep shit , i go to a deep house night with true deep house artists )... come on , let true deep house djs play there shit , let them have the fame they deserve , dont try to go with the flow , maybe you'll be less booked , but when what you do is hype again , you'll have all the fame you deserve , because you stuck to your genre... i mean i listen some Pezzner shit , who is a great producer , he should be rewarded for his talent ,but because everybody is exploiting the genre , he lacks of visibilty at the profits of artists that just do what works ... Idem for people like Llorca , great music , i saw him playing 2 years ago , it was strictly deep/jazz house when everybody was in Hawtin and Dubfire ( i respect those too , i like minimal ) but no , you look at BP chart , you see some former minimal heads , now taking the deep wagon ... give me a break ... i would like to hear "evolving artists" opinion on that matter thought , could be a great discussion ... Now i' not accusing Steffi of anything , i was just reacting to a previous comment , thanks
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| #24 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 03:47 Im getting so sick of listening to this debate....
Good Music is Good Music.......END OFF!!!!!!
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Posts / 222 RA Since / Oct 2007 Location / Manchester | #25 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 04:04 (Edited: 6 Nov 09 04:13) Posted by camusPosted by JoseMclean
"all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit ".
I dont agree with this. There are a lot of fresh & forward thinking deep house producers out there. If you say the sound is the same from the last ten years you may aswell say the same about techno, disco and all the other sub genres.
I agree about the fact that quite a few producers have jumped on the deep house bandwagon - but these weren't any good in the first place.
As for Steffi - she clearly knows how to put a set together, & like no other. DJ of the year for me.
well there is nothing new in the new disco trend , it is just pimping old italo disco ... As for the new deep house thing , it is the same gimmicks , the same samples that are used to produce the shit. of course there is something new in the means , no more shitty akai sampler , but ableton live is used to produce , so no limitations in tracks , effects , etc ... but is the result better ? i dont think so ... Again , i respect the guys , oslo , cecile , old deep house pioneers etc ... they stuck to deep house and didnt try to jump in the minimal wagon ... 
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| #26 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 11:15 yeah she def. rocks !!!
Come and see Steffi DJ with John Osborn at the Jackson party in Cookies on the 24th November in Berlin !!!!
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The Random One Posts / 412 RA Since / Feb 2007 Location / West Yorkshire Next @ Hard Wax XX | #27 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 12:54 Posted by camusPosted by JoseMclean
"all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit ".
I dont agree with this. There are a lot of fresh & forward thinking deep house producers out there. If you say the sound is the same from the last ten years you may aswell say the same about techno, disco and all the other sub genres.
I agree about the fact that quite a few producers have jumped on the deep house bandwagon - but these weren't any good in the first place.
As for Steffi - she clearly knows how to put a set together, & like no other. DJ of the year for me.
well there is nothing new in the new disco trend , it is just pimping old italo disco ... As for the new deep house thing , it is the same gimmicks , the same samples that are used to produce the shit. of course there is something new in the means , no more shitty akai sampler , but ableton live is used to produce , so no limitations in tracks , effects , etc ... but is the result better ? i dont think so ... Again , i respect the guys , oslo , cecile , old deep house pioneers etc ... they stuck to deep house and didnt try to jump in the minimal wagon ... But some other folks that were playing minimal all the way and are now jumping in the deep house wagon are just jokes , period , of course you need to evolve , of course you need to be booked , but you need to make room for the true players too , or you lack personality ... isnt it what we ask from our artists , or labels ? personnality ? isn't this website , resident advisor , about personnality , where as djmag is about trend ? i thought so ... if the scene now is , always the same guys booked that plays just what works ( due to the easy availability of music content ... ) , is it worth it ? those guys who were minimal then , and are deep now , and will be something after , they do not leave room for genuine players , those who stick to a genre and dont follow trends... some of my favorite artists , i used to go see them on club , are playing deep now ... wtf ?( i dont pay 15 euros to hear the play deep house but minimal , if i want to hear deep shit , i go to a deep house night with true deep house artists )... come on , let true deep house djs play there shit , let them have the fame they deserve , dont try to go with the flow , maybe you'll be less booked , but when what you do is hype again , you'll have all the fame you deserve , because you stuck to your genre... i mean i listen some Pezzner shit , who is a great producer , he should be rewarded for his talent ,but because everybody is exploiting the genre , he lacks of visibilty at the profits of artists that just do what works ... Idem for people like Llorca , great music , i saw him playing 2 years ago , it was strictly deep/jazz house when everybody was in Hawtin and Dubfire ( i respect those too , i like minimal ) but no , you look at BP chart , you see some former minimal heads , now taking the deep wagon ... give me a break ... i would like to hear "evolving artists" opinion on that matter thought , could be a great discussion ... Now i' not accusing Steffi of anything , i was just reacting to a previous comment , thanks Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by "i respect the guys , oslo , cecile , old deep house pioneers etc" The Oslo, Cecille guys are so far away from deep house , to say they are deep house pioneers is not correct!Most of them are only producing percussive house tools which, as a genre is going the same way minimal went - no fresh ideas, everyone sampling the same thing (eg tribal). Pioneers in deep house are producers like Chez Damier, Ron Trent, Theo Parrish, Kerri Chandler etc. Going back to the original point about you saying "all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit " I still disagree, there is a small community of fresh house producers & labels who are doing their own thing & doing it well.
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| #28 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 13:26 this discussion again?
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| #29 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 13:39 Meh
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Posts / 17 RA Since / Apr 2008 | #30 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 16:39 I think the greatest misconception a lot of people have about electronic music is that it should constantly be re-inventing itself. I'd rather listen to something good than something new.
Ps. Go Steffi! The Dutch scene couldn't wish for a better representative in Berlin...
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| #31 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 18:23 Posted by JoseMcleanPosted by camusPosted by JoseMclean
"all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit ".
I dont agree with this. There are a lot of fresh & forward thinking deep house producers out there. If you say the sound is the same from the last ten years you may aswell say the same about techno, disco and all the other sub genres.
I agree about the fact that quite a few producers have jumped on the deep house bandwagon - but these weren't any good in the first place.
As for Steffi - she clearly knows how to put a set together, & like no other. DJ of the year for me.
well there is nothing new in the new disco trend , it is just pimping old italo disco ... As for the new deep house thing , it is the same gimmicks , the same samples that are used to produce the shit. of course there is something new in the means , no more shitty akai sampler , but ableton live is used to produce , so no limitations in tracks , effects , etc ... but is the result better ? i dont think so ... Again , i respect the guys , oslo , cecile , old deep house pioneers etc ... they stuck to deep house and didnt try to jump in the minimal wagon ... But some other folks that were playing minimal all the way and are now jumping in the deep house wagon are just jokes , period , of course you need to evolve , of course you need to be booked , but you need to make room for the true players too , or you lack personality ... isnt it what we ask from our artists , or labels ? personnality ? isn't this website , resident advisor , about personnality , where as djmag is about trend ? i thought so ... if the scene now is , always the same guys booked that plays just what works ( due to the easy availability of music content ... ) , is it worth it ? those guys who were minimal then , and are deep now , and will be something after , they do not leave room for genuine players , those who stick to a genre and dont follow trends... some of my favorite artists , i used to go see them on club , are playing deep now ... wtf ?( i dont pay 15 euros to hear the play deep house but minimal , if i want to hear deep shit , i go to a deep house night with true deep house artists )... come on , let true deep house djs play there shit , let them have the fame they deserve , dont try to go with the flow , maybe you'll be less booked , but when what you do is hype again , you'll have all the fame you deserve , because you stuck to your genre... i mean i listen some Pezzner shit , who is a great producer , he should be rewarded for his talent ,but because everybody is exploiting the genre , he lacks of visibilty at the profits of artists that just do what works ... Idem for people like Llorca , great music , i saw him playing 2 years ago , it was strictly deep/jazz house when everybody was in Hawtin and Dubfire ( i respect those too , i like minimal ) but no , you look at BP chart , you see some former minimal heads , now taking the deep wagon ... give me a break ... i would like to hear "evolving artists" opinion on that matter thought , could be a great discussion ... Now i' not accusing Steffi of anything , i was just reacting to a previous comment , thanks Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by "i respect the guys , oslo , cecile , old deep house pioneers etc" The Oslo, Cecille guys are so far away from deep house , to say they are deep house pioneers is not correct!Most of them are only producing percussive house tools which, as a genre is going the same way minimal went - no fresh ideas, everyone sampling the same thing (eg tribal). Pioneers in deep house are producers like Chez Damier, Ron Trent, Theo Parrish, Kerri Chandler etc. Going back to the original point about you saying "all the good deep house records have already been produced 10 years ago , why bother listen the new shit copying the old shit " I still disagree, there is a small community of fresh house producers & labels who are doing their own thing & doing it well. hi pal that is why i put a coma between those labels and deep house pioneers ... i dont think they are pioneers , but i respect them as well as the pioneers ... that is the purpose of a coma , dont you think ? to seperate things ... ;-)
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Posts / 190 RA Since / Apr 2007 | #32 / Fri, 06 Nov 09 23:25 "I think the greatest misconception a lot of people have about electronic music is that it should constantly be re-inventing itself. I'd rather listen to something good than something new."
I rather listen to something good and fresh than to something which i heard 10 years ago in my House mixes.And I rather listen to the originals than to the good copies.
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| #33 / Sat, 07 Nov 09 00:50 brilliant artist
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| #34 / Wed, 11 Nov 09 13:07 I'm surprised this deep house thing is still going in 2009. I love it and think it's great house is back where it belongs but how can someone insult minimal and guaranteed next year be slagging deep house off as dull etc
As dance music goes, I thought the hype of Deep House would have been up long ago.
Anyway, good DJ and nice piece. Good to see djs giving proper reviews of tracks.
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New user Posts / 8 RA Since / Aug 2008 | #35 / Thu, 12 Nov 09 08:18 The great minimal flight of late 00 is the best thing that could have ever happened. Now that the fakes are gone there are finally some decent tracks being made.
Anyways, nice article/reviews. I've got a few of those disks in my bag myself!
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| #36 / Sun, 15 Nov 09 02:37 great point !!! but it is like no dj has ever played minimal now , why this minimal bashing ? now on flyers we can read house or techno , but seems like minimal is the forbidden word ... WTF ?
And you're right ,one year from now there will be some kind of deep house bashing by the same guys that sware they never touched a minimal record , but does the audience really want deep house all night long ?
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| #37 / Tue, 17 Nov 09 08:06 Posted by camus
now on flyers we can read house or techno , but seems like minimal is the forbidden word ... WTF ?
few years back 'progressive' was the forbidden word.  Sets from so called 'progressive' djs had already started moving towards fresher sounds, without the baggage of the word.
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| #38 / Tue, 17 Nov 09 13:54 love steffi's energy behind the decks... easily dj of the year for me
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