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 | RA Review As one of Panorama Bar's most talented resident DJs, it seemed only a matter of time before Steffi stepped into the limelight as a producer. She made her debut with"24 Hours," a simple and classy deep house track she threw together in one night for Tama Sumo's Panorama Bar 02 compilation. On "Kill..
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| #1 / Thu, 11 Feb 10 17:29 Definitely a modern and classic sound.
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| #2 / Thu, 11 Feb 10 20:29 techno?
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| #3 / Thu, 11 Feb 10 21:25 I could not disagree with you more, Will, about the vocal mix. I personally find her vocal incredibly compelling. She's not trying to be some big tough diva, she's a woman who has been treated like shit and would rather be killed than have to endure being with the other person. That's strong resignation, a sentiment she sings quite well. And her vocals fit so well inside the beat, possibly even better than any of her moments on the two albums you mentioned. I can see the attraction of the other mixes, but calling it 'wide of the mark' makes it sound like what she's done is completely incompatible with the beat. And that's far from the truth.
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| #4 / Thu, 11 Feb 10 21:51 although i love elif, i have to agree with the review here.. the vocals just don't seem to fit the track. techno, though? not really.
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| #5 / Thu, 11 Feb 10 22:37 Love this 12". The dub mix is amazing. I actually quite like the vocal mix though I can see how people would find it cheesey. But personally I like it. Dub mix really is spectacular though. Shall purchase in the non-too-distant...
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| #6 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 07:25 NICE ONE!
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| #7 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 10:01 Posted by tiddlerz techno?
That's been corrected now.
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| #8 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 11:28 i thought the vocals sound pretty good - work well with the music (even if not lyrics) and that's what matters most.
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| #9 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 13:16 Very disappointed. It's not what I like from Ostgut.
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| #10 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 13:32 Posted by kikicococucu Very disappointed. It's not what I like from Ostgut.
What do you mean? Cos it's not following the harder Berghain sound? Fits pretty well into Panoramabar though, if you ask me.
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| #11 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 14:01
What do you mean? Cos it's not following the harder Berghain sound? Fits pretty well into Panoramabar though, if you ask me.
You're right! Ostgut wants to promote music from the residents of the whole club (Berghain AND Panorama Bar). And this record is pure Panorama Bar sound. Personally I love Ostgut for this variety in their releases. Harder stuff, dub, house but always with a connection to the club.
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| #12 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 14:23 love this
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| #13 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 14:23 love this
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| #14 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 14:51 hm i actually think the original is fun... gives me a panorama bar mood  !
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| #15 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 16:53 Posted by eric_bln
What do you mean? Cos it's not following the harder Berghain sound? Fits pretty well into Panoramabar though, if you ask me.
You're right! Ostgut wants to promote music from the residents of the whole club (Berghain AND Panorama Bar). And this record is pure Panorama Bar sound. Personally I love Ostgut for this variety in their releases. Harder stuff, dub, house but always with a connection to the club.
I get what you mean, but a lot of the previous Ostgut stuff was pure Berghain (recently the PAS remixes, Deuce, Fengler).. they keep their output pretty evenly balanced between the sound of both spaces, which is good. I don't think a lot of the 12" really combine both Berghain and Pbar though, apart from Rainbow/ Mekong Delta of course.
I prefer the harder sound myself, but you have to keep everyone happy. Can't wait for the remix package of the forthcoming Dettmann album.
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| #16 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 18:10 If it didn't fit panorama bar, would it mean it's shit? hahaha
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| #17 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 20:06 dub mix is outstanding...meh on the vocal mix.
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| #18 / Fri, 12 Feb 10 21:16 All the mixes are great, each of the 3 can fit into entirely different points in the night. Very well catered to any DJ's style. Kudos to Steffi, with this and 24 Hours she's killing it.
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| #19 / Sat, 13 Feb 10 02:00 the crushed soul mix reminds me on some old larry heard tune and i think its totally beautiful. thanks steffi!
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| #20 / Sat, 13 Feb 10 13:02 Exactly ! I prefer their harder sound (Ben Klock's One LP or the Len Faki's track, that is HUGE) A sound more like sandwell district
Sorry I've never gone to Berghain
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| #21 / Sat, 13 Feb 10 13:09 I look forward the Marcel Dettmann's album
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| #22 / Sun, 14 Feb 10 11:01 I was (am) really, really looking forward to this release, but let me tell you something: I always had a huge problem with singers whose accent sounds half-way 'germanic'. Couldn't stand it on the 'Serenity' LP, couldn't stand it on various other Ostgut EPs ... either don't do it at all, or go absolutely Python-bonkers like M. Mayer on 'Love is stronger ...'. Having said that, I can't agree with the verdict on the vocal version. This is on 12' I'm gonna wear out on both sides within weeks, and hopefully this will take all involved artists one step further! Lovely sounds, lovely beats, just pure spring-time happiness!
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| #23 / Sun, 14 Feb 10 14:20 very very very good. Lovely track as base said it has everything to attract people and dj's from deep jocks to funky djs. Great release Steffi 12' purchased!
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| #24 / Sun, 14 Feb 10 15:55 Lovely release, and IMHO vocal mix is more than fine
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| #25 / Sun, 14 Feb 10 20:54 This shit is hot! I got 2 copies and I mix all three mixes together...not to many happy tracks or songs coming out right now...and even though in the song she's tired of her man or woman  ...the music is happy and up beat... The records hot...the ladies are hot...and it works very well on the dance floor....BAM  ED JUS-ED THAT IS... 
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Next @ Klubnacht | #26 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 08:34 Posted by kikicococucu I look forward the Marcel Dettmann's album
The Steffi release is very nice. Dettmann's album will be released the 24th of april and will be called "Dettmann"
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| #27 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 12:20 Such a good artist, Ms. Steffi.
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| #28 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 13:51 Posted by Duffbeers the crushed soul mix reminds me on some old larry heard tune and i think its totally beautiful. thanks steffi!
I like this mix the most out of them all. As for people saying "its not ostgut" well it is, so shut up.
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| #29 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 17:50 very good production on this record, is it house or techno? who gives a shit, its done well and that's what really matters... SOLID
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| #30 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 17:53 totally overrated.
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| #31 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 18:55 No amount of editing would have made this vocal sound good. I don't think it's a matter of her voice fitting this style of beats. It's more a matter of Steffi not being a proper-singer. There are a few cringe-worthy moments during the 'original mix'.
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| #32 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 20:00 Tracks like these make our music sound 'amateurish' to outsiders.
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| #33 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 20:12 erm, the vocals are actually by elif bicer, who is a proper singer.
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| #34 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 20:19 Elif Bicer, my bad, had it reversed in my head...doesn't mean the vocal sounds good all of the sudden?
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| #35 / Mon, 15 Feb 10 23:05 i agree
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| #36 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 01:35 I am confused by the responses here. Are we musicians or not? Iit is the true mark of a musician to tackle a timeless theme such as love lost and then- to deliver pop structure in a house format, with elegance for the dancefloor, well, I mean, actually I have tried to do this over and over with my own music and it is one of the most difficult. Listen to Pet Sounds by beach boys or the self titled Velvet Underground LP. This stuff is so cognitive and perfect, and these are examples of what our generation also need to include in their compositional palette. Not always in this style, but the endeavor must be applauded each and every-time, for our legacy as musicians and also for the sheer tenacity of execution. Lastly,-C'mon, think of the queens in the Panaroma losing it to this track. Perfect, and probably couldn't GET more "Ostgut." The reason we must work with pop endeavors and not be so "underground" or "dark" all the damn time is because we are musicians first and foremost. We perform the standards which have existed for hundreds of years because we are part of a discipline and legacy, and you don't disregard the past simply to favor the future. This is the vocalist who supplied "OK" by the Klockman. I found her vision on this release to be really stunning and the delivery was equally impressive. Actually I was smiling from ear to ear as the lyrics unfolded before me the first time.. Nice work!
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| #37 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 13:56 So what about Jovonn? Is that "wrong" as well? Just listen to "I cant make up my mind".. sometimes beauty comes from NOT sounding perfect.
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| #38 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 15:28 great ep and congrats to both steffi and elif . the vocal cut is excellent too . great tone from elif and thank god she is not sounding like 'other tough or whatever other singers ' , but rather like herself . a great unique voice . electronic music needs to evolve fro these parameters that people seem to set . thanx to people like steffi and elif who are willing to take the risk and do something different from what is expected .
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Next @ Kozzmozz | #39 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 15:47 it's a nice production but not my thing basically. I wonder if this would get the same amount of ooh's and aah's if this was on another label. Doubt it.
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| #40 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 16:24 I am curious about some of RA's ratings of late, and this review / rating highlights my question. How does a review containing, 'Unfortunately, it ends up sinking the EP's first A-side track.' end up with 4 stars? Are the ratings scored independently from the reviews?
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| #41 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 17:16 Posted by m50 I am curious about some of RA's ratings of late, and this review / rating highlights my question. How does a review containing, 'Unfortunately, it ends up sinking the EP's first A-side track.' end up with 4 stars? Are the ratings scored independently from the reviews?
FYI, ratings are typically chosen by the reviewer. This review was kind of a special case, because as much as I wasn't feeling the vocal mix, the other two tracks are too excellent for this EP to get anything less than a 4. So to answer your question, the rating often represents the reviewer's overall opinion of the release, rather than an average of each track's individual rating.
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| #42 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 17:20 I vote boring, like a lot of the stuff Ostgut is pumping out these days. How about releasing tracks like that T++ monster from Berghain 02? 
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| #43 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 17:22 And yeah, it definitely seems like RA has a pretty skewed rating scale. Like they get money from the links below to buy the record . . .
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| #44 / Tue, 16 Feb 10 19:44 Posted by Bill_LeePosted by m50 I am curious about some of RA's ratings of late, and this review / rating highlights my question. How does a review containing, 'Unfortunately, it ends up sinking the EP's first A-side track.' end up with 4 stars? Are the ratings scored independently from the reviews?
FYI, ratings are typically chosen by the reviewer. This review was kind of a special case, because as much as I wasn't feeling the vocal mix, the other two tracks are too excellent for this EP to get anything less than a 4. So to answer your question, the rating often represents the reviewer's overall opinion of the release, rather than an average of each track's individual rating. Thanks for the insight
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| #45 / Wed, 17 Feb 10 03:28 the (Crushed Soul Mix) is decent - vocals in the original not so much. 4/5 rather questionable
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| #46 / Wed, 17 Feb 10 09:38 really really glad i bought this
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| #47 / Fri, 19 Feb 10 13:20 the 'instrumental dub' is very cool!
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| #48 / Fri, 26 Feb 10 15:43 Dub is alright. Vocal lacks I'm afraid.
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| #49 / Wed, 17 Mar 10 12:06
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| #50 / Wed, 17 Mar 10 14:59 Really been enjoying this, quality release!
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